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I will not answer if they call and ask those questions. I automatically think it is LE or someone that is just shopping to get a "deal". I always have price listed along with my website and will refer them to the website.

Not saying this any of these scenarios fit your particular situation Skylar as I have no way of knowing. What you suggested are possibilities. Other possibilities are that "some" ladies have a advertised rate, but if a guy catches them at a slow time, the rate is sometimes quoted at lower than advertised. And don't forget about the practice of a lot of ladies to call and ask about "specials."

Other areas of confusion are multiple locations with different rates. This was a personal pet peeve of mine until a lady told me that often she is not aware of sites that pick up her ad. EX: she places ad with her then-current rate on X website. That ad is picked up by Y website. She changes her rates, but that new ad is not refreshed on the Y website.

Unless I am 100% sure, I do ask about rates, but something more to the effect of - "Ms Hottie whom I can't wait to meet, to avoid any embarrassment for either of us - would you please direct me to some site that lists your current donation rates for your time?" Others will just come straight out and ask as you have noted. And some guys will just look for the lowest rate and go with that. When called on short-changing they just point to the ad rate they used. Not sure about NR, but oThER review sites are terrible about listing accurate rates (IMO.) Hence, always a good idea to check your profiles on review sites which I am pretty sure NR Admin often advocates as well.

In any event, I think you are handling the situation as best as possible. Perhaps you might get some suggestions on the Provider section?

i always tend to ask to for the same reason, it would be embarrassing as hell if they went up since the ad i found was posted and i was short. it would equally be annoying if they had gone down and i over paid by a significant amount and then found out later the real rate.

Why do they ask these questions? Because sometimes the price for the service/services to be provided sounds to good to be true.

that has happened to me on several occasions.. they call and ask the price and i tell them well its on the nr ad on here.. or on my website.. or they find me on the yahoo im.. same questions.. and i give them the same response.. check my website.. sometimes i think they are brain dead?
LMAO

SP

I had one experience where I saw a couple of ads that listed a rate. When I met with her, she said her rate was higher than the special that was posted. Fool me once shame on you...

I always assume they wrote down the phone # not the rate, and call the # long after they read the ad. which is worse, being asked to confirm the rate or having them show up short? Many guys are nervous about making the first phone call, and not sure what questions to ask, but how you respond is more important than what the question actually is.

Due to all the ad stealing sites out there, it is always a good idea to steer the conversation the way you want it to go, politely, and first make sure the caller saw an ad that you actually placed. That you get phone calls from the fake sites is a bonus, but you don't know what information he has unless you ask.

@ Katrina - That's a point of view that makes sense. I also hadn't thought about the stolen ads.

I'm new at this. If I look at an ad on this site and there is not any donation information posted, and the ad says check out my web site and the web site is either backpage or myproviders without a price there. Then I have to ask on the phone? Am I missing something?
Thanks

sties that steal ads are:
www.LE69.com they have stolen ads from NR site..
and my post on escorts forum see my new post.. ladies. kaptain krunch site stole my ad from here too

guys always tell the provider where U seen her ad at.. as we all keep track of where we post here online..
the sites that steal ads.. like LE69.com they have my website link wrong, my donation wrong and even my frigging email wrong!!!

Sp

Just move on. If she won't let you know her rate, then I usually figure it's an upsell when you get there. The vast majority will make rate very clear in her ad.

Then you need to scroll down and like on mine on NR .. it shows the half hour and hour rate for donations.. i dont use myproviders.com site.. you shouldnt ask on the phone either.. as we providers wont talk about our donation amounts on it.. my website has all my info on it.. usually ladies on bp have their donations posted..

Welcome and to respond - Nope, you got it - just make sure you don't tie your question on rates to a specific physical act. Just a word of caution - if you are basing the decision to see on just having a profile (and no reviews) and then a backpage ad - you probably should consider doing a little more research since you said you are new to this.

I totally agree with this - I assume that most guys are nervous about making the first contact, because 9 times out of 10 guys are asking questions that are always answered within my ads. I just assume they're looking to confirm the information since there are so many sites out there, as has been mentioned, that steal info & it's got to be questionable whether what they're reading is actually accurate.

I have no problem confirming a rate over the phone. If I'm talking to LE on the phone, they can't slap cuffs on me. If I end up with LE in my room, they don't need me to talk about any of that in order to bust me anyway, so I figure what's the harm - if I'm with LE I'm fucked anyway LOL. And besides I'd much rather confirm the rate over the phone - and always do, in a subtle way so it's not quite so businesslike - than have someone show up & be under the impression that they should be paying $100 less than I'm expecting.

I once returned a guys call...introduced myself and he said "Hold on a second, let me see which one you are..." okaay lol then he tried talking me into seeing him even though he had no references and didnt want to be sceened. okaaaay.

The issue with questions on rates is easily fixed by having a website. Its a direct source, and Id rather refer someone to read my website than give info like that by phone, email, text, what have you. Im consistent in my rates no matter where I advertise, but even if someone were to find some jacked ad site that I didnt place myself on with bad info, all they would need to do is google me (Id hope they do their research) find my website, see that I keep it updated and know that it contains all the info they need to know.

Besides, the *best* dates I've ever had, do their research on me. It stands to reason, if someone is nervous, they are going to do due diligence in finding someone to spend time with, not write down several numbers and take a chance with whoever is available/answers first. On the flip, the guys I usually end up not seeing because they either dont pass screening or give me a bad vibe, are the ones who didnt bother to research me or read my website. If they dont care enough to know who they are spending time and money on, then its probably not in my best interest to spend my time with them anyway.

Same here. That's not to say I can't get lucky, but the best times I've spent with someone were when he took the time to make sure that I was the type of person that would fit his personality & what he was looking for in terms of what I do & do not offer. Then again, not everyone has the time to sit down & research a girl they're interested in, a lot of the time they have to hobby on the fly. I can get along with pretty much anyone & do my best to show everyone a good time, but it's definitely easier when someone does their due diligence & isn't taking an even bigger chance on whether or not we're compatible.

I do research and check out web sites but i have never really thought about from a legal point of view what is the difference between print and verbal reply's?

I have only been told this - so I am passing on gossip. It is my understanding that cell phone providers are required to retain text messages for an unspecified period of time. There is no such requirement regarding verbal conversations. So, if one wanted to get uber paranoid - then explicit text could be used as proof of solicitation. Given the misdemeanor nature, I would think one would have to really tick off a prosecutor to go to that extreme.

I err on the side of caution and say there is no difference.
Its just not safe practice, for an escort or a hobbyist,
to discuss incriminating details by any means of communication.

Nicole,
I agree with you. But we do not talk about price or services in text,phone or e-mail. But if it is brought up you say check out my web site it gives you all the info. It would tell me your price and your services and maybe reviews. So if you/we got busted and asked how you got the info for the act it really would not mater if you said phone,text or web site?

And by the way when i say YOU i do not mean Nicole i mean the other person on the other end of the deal.

Oh I understand.."you" is universally speaking

But yeah, I do not answer questions like rates because it lends itself to asking even more questions...but mostly its a red flag and puts me on guard, because if someone visited my website, did their research, and still do not know what my rates are, then already Im on edge to what their motive for contacting me is. Thankfully, its *very* rare anyone asks me any questions at all. So when someone does get all 20 questions on me, I figure they are LE and end communication.

Now services is something I do not list on my website, nor will I talk about it, so there is no worry of busts based on "info for the act"..since the only act I mention on my website is "time and companionship only."

I know other ladies do post detailed info on their sites, but I choose not to, because I do find it incriminating....and incriminating acts have nothing to do with the service I provide anyway, which is my companionship... right?

A couple things: (this based on knowledge I've gleaned over the years from friends who work in criminal justice, as well as girls who have experienced the ass-end of that world)

If you're in a sting, they may record the phone call to use as evidence, but even more importantly they'll push the issue in person (whether they're wearing a wire or not, the officer's word is as good as gold anyway). Cell phone providers cannot capture voice calls - well they can, but it's illegal. They do save text messages, but the case will be far too easy to prove without them having to subpoena a cellphone carrier for text message data which takes several weeks at least. They can easily convict you without all that, and they don't have the resources to be going into cellphone records when it's not needed for a conviction. First time offenders will get offered a plea deal anyway (except in some cities).

This is the same reason that you don't need to worry about your phone number being in a provider's phone. Sure, the stories exist... "My best friend's sister's cousin's godfather's nephew got busted because the cops gaffled up a girl & went through her phone & he showed up to a sting" but I've never spoken to anyone that it's actually happened to. My phone is still password protected and my contacts and history are encrypted though LOL.

Yep pretty much what I have heard. Apologies if I was not clear in previous post. And you now owe me an aspirin Delaine, "My best friend's sister's cousin's godfather's nephew" gives me a headache just trying to figure that one out.

But I would caveat your statement about the phone number. Agree not so much an issue if you have an anonymous hobby phone, but "could" be an issue if you used your normal day to day phone - not so much from a legal perspective though. Now from a community perspective...some gents may be volunteers, coaches, neighbors, members of a congregation, etc. and the last thing they would want is to have their number in some phone appropriated by Barney Fife. Plus - I doubt that every lady has her act together as much as you seem to have it. Another reason why it is just common sense to have a hobby phone.

Ok I understand that rates may change but aren't the rates on a girls website always accurate?
I mean I get this pretty much everyday. I don't list my donations in my ads but there's a website listed on every ad. I just don't get it.

given the infrequent updating schedules of most websites lends to the thought that the rates are outdated or inaccurate.
also most guys myself included dont bother to click through to a website. A number and no price would also logically cause me to assume that you want me to ask.
Assuming you put a phone number in your ad why not take that to the logical conclusion and give a rate?

You are only allowed a certain # of characters in an ad 500 characters isn't really alot.
No girl should ever talk about her donation.
Why is it a guy has time to go thru pages and pages of escorts ads, but not enough time to make three page clicks to get to my reciprocity page?

Oh and sweetie you should never assume we all know how that ends
Xoxo

shrug i tend to pass on the ones with out a rate, you would be amazed at how often that leads to an upsell situation as has been pointed out above.
do i miss out by not caring enough to click through to a website, decipher whatever arcane navigation mechanism the developer sold the lady on, then figure out what the rate is? possibly, however i havent noticed.

Unless your site is really bad then we email the url to one another and make fun of it....

ps yes i understand you spent time and money on your website and wish it to be utilized however
the ad is the first thing i see and if theres no rate immediately apparent i cant decide if further research
is even warrented.

As I continue to do my research, I ran across a scenario that may explain the "how much" question. I found a girl I was interested on three websites: NaughtyReviews, another site who's name I can' recall, and her own website (which I linked from the site I can't remember.....). Anyway, each site listed a substantially different rate. It might have been related to different rates in different cities but the rate on her website was by far the highest. So, to address the OP's question....is it likely this scenario is why many callers ask the rate?

I have noticed the same thing, sometimes the NaughtyReviews profile has a different rate than the website or an ad she may have ran on backpage. It does make it confusing and no small wonder that the tehdency would be to ask. Since most providers don't want you to ask, it has made me hesitate to even call some of the providers. I hate to ask and I don't want to show up and be short of funds.