Maybe there's a way you could get verified in DC by using a reference from a provider in another city?

Did you ever use Date Check or P411?

Pretty sure his comment about having a DC membership meant Date Check.

As a BIG generality, many of the ATL providers want more from a newbie with no provider ref or published review than just P411 or Date Check alone. This is a tough area to get started, not sure how it compares to others...quite the catch-22 scenario. I have sent PM to OP. Best advice is to call or email a few reputable ladies and then take the plunge and give up some personal info or agree to meet (and pay) for time before session. In this area, provider referrals seem to carry the most weight, again - not sure how it is in other areas. Which means that typically, you only have to give up the info one time and then you can network from there. But even after the provider feels comfortable, and this applies to experienced hobbyists as well, she is still going to want some ID at start of session. We had some some putz impersonating another hobbyist via his TER handle. Ironically, ATL is really a hobbyist's market, but the price of admission sounds much more intrusive than it really is. Be interested how this differs in other areas, from the hobbyist perspective.

The option of out of town provider referral is also good, assuming the out of town provider has published reviews and website.

LOL. That makes sense now. My bad.

This is actually not a bad idea! Doesn't get around the ATL providers wanting add'l info as coyote mentions, but still, in the interest of trying to preserve as much anonymity as possible, a good recommendation.

Many thanks to coyote for the great ATL-specific info! Sincerely appreciated!

I am New York based lady and have taken references of out of town providers given that they:

1) have reviews
2) have website

As for DC/P411 - if someone has no provider OK's on their profile I AM going to ask for additional info. I also will give my OK after the date to make it easier for the Gentleman.

Once you have several RECENT positive referrals on either site screnning becomes fast and painless regardless where you play.

Lina

I'd be willing to wager that most providers keep some kind of contact info. Maybe the ones who offer 15 minute quickies don't as that would just be too many to write down but those who are more professional must jot down somethings that help them remember who you are when you call again.....Am I right ladies?

I save phone numbers with the first name they gave me (usually I have no idea whether that's their real name) and a made-up last name... like Jose Greatguy or Andrew Annoying.
Otherwise I'd never know if I've see the guy before.. "Hey it's Freddie!! We met last year!"

I'm NEVER going to make the mistake of answering the phone calling them by their name again.

"Hey Tim how are you doing?" - and then I his girlfriend on the phone... ugh. Was hard to stay calm and be all like "I'm very sorry you're so upset, m'am, but I really don't understand what you're trying to say..."

Otherwise I don't keep notes.. I just have all the old emails. Sure I often forget stuff about the sessions, but I really, really really don't want ANY kind of evidence lying around.

At least you admit you same numbers...and it's cool that you don't use last names. If guys use a hobby phone they're cool.

But I think lots of indy providers who say they don't save lists actually do. Just sayin' what I think.

Yet one more reason to get a hobby phone. I honestly can't understand anyone who doesn't have one...you're just asking for trouble.

Yeap I make sure to save numbers and names of people I never ever intend to see - so I don't answer the phone when they call

Although I actually almost never answer my "work" phone anyway. Unless I KNOW who's going to be calling me and when. Prefer all contact via e mail.

Even says so in my outgoing message "If we have not met please contact me via email. If we have, please leave the phone number and time when it is convenient for you to be reached"

xoxo

Lina

i use yahoo calendar.. when you schedule, first name and phone# go into the calendar with a reminder set so i get an email an hour before the appointment. .. the reminder email is routed to its own folder i have set up for just this purpose.

if you properly cancel or if you keep the appointment and all is well when you leave, the event and the reminder gets deleted.

if you ncns or all is NOT WELL for some odd reason, the event and the reminder email stays in my email reminder folder... i always do a quick search of my emails when i schedule an appointment and if i find you in there, i'm probably going to mess with you a lil bit.

so my client list is comprised of all the guys who ncns and a few select politicians i dont like that i threw in there to protest any invasions into my privacy.

like lina said, the only list most of us are interested in keeping is our DO NOT SEE list.

i need lots and lots of space for all the guys that call up acting like jackasses and ALWAYS call back and try to act nice. ... i also have in my phone most of the guys that are on dns lists in my area and of course, my personal dns list with the ringer on those entries set to "no ring" so they dont disturb me when they call. my phone only allows 500 entries and even though i consolidate 5#s to each entry, well, there's too many jackasses out there for me to bother wasting my space on clients i DON'T want to avoid.

although i do have some good guys in my phone, they're guys that see me alot and they are aware of it.

lucia, when i did more outcalls, i used the street they lived on as the last name.

LOL. Careful with Google and Yahoo....they aren't exactly famous for keeping your data safe.

the information that needs to stay safe is deleted.

although i know some agencies that use yahoo calendar for client records and i agree that's absolutely ridiculous. (az confidential before they merged with desert divas) they should be kept offshore and encrypted if they're going to keep them but the only way to really guarantee that the information is going to be safe is to not keep it at all.

interesting unconfirmed rumor - the owner of one of the divas agencies, used to be the phone op for another agency and started his agency by downloading their client list (yahoo calendar).
since the guys were used to him calling whenever they had a new girl, they didn't think anything of it when he called them. this was told to me by someone who used to work for this agency and who had downloaded their yahoo calendar client list (2 years worth of it and coincidentally the same 2 years that were later released to the press) right before quitting

true or not, obviously when an agency has your info, it's going to be accessible right off the bat to more than just 1 person and according to mario puzo, a 3rd person is just a witness.

Politicians??? LMAO. So basically, if ever sheer misfortune should befall, you still get more than a little level of satisfaction. What kind of "messing" do you do to the other guys?

What do you mean by "mess with you a lil bit" Ana?

why, do you nc/ns ?

Here's what I put in my personal schedule:

The name you use with me (i.e. Your real name is Michael Senco but you sign your emails "Brent", I'll call you Brent if it's what you prefer)
City the appointment is in
Whether it was incall or out
The date(s) we met
How you were screened (i.e. "Verified via Date-Check ID XX9999X" or "Verified via references" and their info)

I think keeping identifying information is no good. I have a fantastic memory so it comes easy to me. Most often, if I do need a memory jog, I'll ask a gentleman who hasn't seen me in awhile to please find the last email I sent him and press reply. I've found gentleman tend to keep my emails. Those who don't simply provide their Date-Check IDs or references again.

Well, I certainly have never nc/ns - but I can see probabilities, like a personal emergency, that could cause me to nc/ns.

I ask because you say that if "[a hobbyist] ncns or all is NOT WELL for some odd reason" that you might "mess with them" and I find that somewhat troubling because "messing" could mean a lot of things, from giving their phone number to spammers to sending them messages threatening to reveal their extracurricular activities to family and friends.

It's just a red flag comment to me. I'm sure you're a great girl and I know I'm a great guy but replies that say things like "mess with them" concern me...if you check out my earlier posts you'd understand why reputation and discretion is somewhat important to me.

No offense meant.

Up front, before anyone thinks I am for wk'ing for Ana - let me assure all that I know she is far more capable than I in responding. However, in this particular case - I think your concerns are misplaced. One thing caught my attention in your reply to Ana - you probably should reconsider the type of information you are giving to ANY provider that would enable her to out you to family and friends.

I also note you joined NR this month, welcome. But all welcomes aside, perhaps you should be the one checking out previous posts to get a sense of the poster, not suggesting the other way around. If you had checked some of Ana's previous posts, you would have noted that it is not her style to "mess with anyone" for an emergency situation, assuming the hobbyist showed the courtesy in explaining the emergency that prompted the nc/ns. I don't recall her listing clairavoyance as one of her talents

It has been my experience that the regulars that post here are a good group - so, unless you are planning on seeing Ana and are concerned about nc/ns on her - your concern, as stated, is a moot point and better left dropped.

I wholeheartedly concur.

no i wouldnt do anything to compromise a guy's a personal life. . not ever.

but i'll pretend to believe his "oh no, i've never called you before" act and i'll be all sweet for awhile while i mess with his head.

these kind of guys automatically think escorts are stupid so i love playing into that.

and yeah they do call back
always.

games games, always with the games..

but i've never ever done anything to compromise a guy's personal life (family, job)... it's not an option to me..... i forgot sometimes how much shit you guys go through, so yeah i understand why it would cause a red flag to go up and thats ok.

good for you guys to be on the alert.. it just sucks that you have to be.

Point taken coyote. Perhaps I was being a little defensive. My original question was simply what she meant by "mess with them". I'm sure Ana's reputation is perfect and I enjoy reading her posts. As you noted, I'm relatively new to this thing - I'm asking questions to better understand what I can expect from the hobbyist/provider relationship in any given scenario. None of my questions are meant to be taken personally. I actually really depend on you guys for information and I enjoy the exchanges we have here.

No worries sir. I am no gift to hobbying and certainly not forum posts, but I do have some experience with both. I think the NR group is much more tolerant (perhaps not the right word) of newer hobbyists than most other boards I frequent. Ana already responded to your specific question, my purpose in responding was to provide a more general input.

I am sincere in suggesting you look at some previous threads, because if you are giving out enough personal info as part of the screening process, such that a provider has a means of easily outing you to family or friends --- well, you might want to rethink that.