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Going Flaccid When the Cover Goes On
I'm a relative newbie to the "hobby" and recently got out out of a long term relationship in which my SO and I would have unprotected sex (sounds funny putting it that way!). During my time with her, I would visit the occasional provider but only for massage and HJ or for BBBJ since my SO never performed either of those things for me:(. Now that I am a free man, I've started to go for the fuller menu providers but I find that when it comes time to slip the cover on and "plunge in" that my dick goes flaccid. It doesn't shrink completely but it would be best described as semi-hard. It is really frustrating and sometimes I'm able to get over it if I force Mr. Semi-Hard in while she's in Doggie and just pump away until I cum. At other times, I simply have to remove the cover and finish on her tits etc... Can anyone recommend something I could do to avoid this frustration happening to me? I greatly appreciate the advice.
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Have you considered using a female condom Sanchez? While they aren't exactly the hottest thing to look at and they cost a bit more, sensation wise they are the closest to BB without doing BB. I've had the old guy go flaccid a couple of times because the condom was too tight as well and the female condom is a pretty good alternative. Other than not looking sexy, the other drawback is that it is a bit tricky to go back and forth between DATY and FS with the female condom on. If you don't like the idea of the female condom you could at least look into different condoms. In my experience Magnum's are a good fit. You are probably going flaccid because of two reasons: 1-the condom is too tight and it is causing the blood to flow out of your cock and 2. The condom takes so long to get on that you lose interest by the time you are ready to go. Both of these things could be solved by the female condom.
You should probably try different condoms. Most providers are a bit reluctant to allow you to use condoms that you've brought because there are sickos out there who prick holes in them but if you bring an unopened box she shouldn't have a problem with it. Another thing to consider would be using a cock ring to keep the blood flow in your penis. You could get one of the ones that has a vibrator on it to keep her happy too. Finally, try different position that provide a tighter fit and better visuals to keep you excited. With all that said, nothing beats bareback!
sometimes i can tell when a guy has this problem because he'll throw the condom a dirty look and i'll catch it..
then i know..
so while i'm performing oral, i'll slip it into my mouth and on him without knowing
and he's fine.
afterwards, they ask me if they should be worried about having unprotected sex.
as if
then i show them and they inform me that they cant wear condoms.
lol
its completely psychological... you can wear one if you dont know it.
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Psychology definitely plays a part and providers who are able to put the condom on with their mouth are certainly appreciated! Still, I think there is also a physical element which can be corrected with the use of a better fitting condom.
sometimes i can tell when a guy has this problem because he'll throw the condom a dirty look and i'll catch it..
then i know..
so while i'm performing oral, i'll slip it into my mouth and on him without knowing
and he's fine.
afterwards, they ask me if they should be worried about having unprotected sex.
as if
then i show them and they inform me that they cant wear condoms.
lol
its completely psychological... you can wear one if you dont know it.
I love it when a woman can do that. I think one of the main reasons guys go flaccid is that the moment usually has to be broken to put the damn condom on. Those that know how to apply the condom secretly with their mouth therefore can really help the flaccid penis problem as there is no break required in the action.
sometimes i can tell when a guy has this problem because he'll throw the condom a dirty look and i'll catch it..
then i know..
so while i'm performing oral, i'll slip it into my mouth and on him without knowing
and he's fine.
afterwards, they ask me if they should be worried about having unprotected sex.
as if
then i show them and they inform me that they cant wear condoms.
lol
its completely psychological... you can wear one if you dont know it.
I love it when a woman can do that. I think one of the main reasons guys go flaccid is that the moment usually has to be broken to put the damn condom on. Those that know how to apply the condom secretly with their mouth therefore can really help the flaccid penis problem as there is no break required in the action.
this is further complicated when the guy doesnt mention that he has this issue.
guys, you know this is embarassing to you so just get it over with at the beginning of the session instead of waiting until the fun is about to begin.
she might not know how to do the mouth trick but it will probably save your weiner from getting smushed to death when she tries to jam it in there .
maybe we need to do like the doctors and get a list of your symptoms when you come in.
almost all of you have at least one issue so dont ever worry about it, you're most likely not going to be the worst case we've dealt with that week.
so if you can get yourself to tell us upfront, (after you are "comfortable") we can make the necessary adjustments to ensure a smooooth ride.
we might be magic but we're not always mind readers.
ps. i've taught quite a few other girls how to do the mouth thing so hope that helps.
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sometimes i can tell when a guy has this problem because he'll throw the condom a dirty look and i'll catch it..
then i know..
so while i'm performing oral, i'll slip it into my mouth and on him without knowing
and he's fine.
afterwards, they ask me if they should be worried about having unprotected sex.
as if
then i show them and they inform me that they cant wear condoms.
lol
its completely psychological... you can wear one if you dont know it.
I love it when a woman can do that. I think one of the main reasons guys go flaccid is that the moment usually has to be broken to put the damn condom on. Those that know how to apply the condom secretly with their mouth therefore can really help the flaccid penis problem as there is no break required in the action.
this is further complicated when the guy doesnt mention that he has this issue.
guys, you know this is embarassing to you so just get it over with at the beginning of the session instead of waiting until the fun is about to begin.
she might not know how to do the mouth trick but it will probably save your weiner from getting smushed to death when she tries to jam it in there .
maybe we need to do like the doctors and get a list of your symptoms when you come in.
almost all of you have at least one issue so dont ever worry about it, you're most likely not going to be the worst case we've dealt with that week.
so if you can get yourself to tell us upfront, (after you are "comfortable") we can make the necessary adjustments to ensure a smooooth ride.
we might be magic but we're not always mind readers.
ps. i've taught quite a few other girls how to do the mouth thing so hope that helps.
I guess in extreme cases it makes sense for the hobbyist to be upfront and honest about any conditions. The only thing I would add is that some guys probably don't experience the Flaccid problem every time but only periodically, as is the case with me. I wouldn't want to tell you about it beforehand because I'd feel I was jinxing myself! Once again, guys who always have this happen would be best off be honest about it from the get go.
no you're right.
i knew that was the reason you guys didnt say anything upfront.
not very many guys would have this happen every time, and only a fraction of them would admit to anyone, not even themselves if it did..
even if the last time without issue was back in 1972, the guy is still hanging on to that one tiny piece of hope but the problem is, he doesnt really believe in it.
its a vicious cycle and the more it happens, the more it worries you and then as a result, the more it happens.
please do try being upfront about it one time, an experiment for me..
.... i think you'll feel relieved of the anxiety and worry you normally have.......... and find that you are able to perform better and no it is NOT because you dont really have an issue but it is because you have admitted it and accepted it and are prepared to deal with it ..... and when you do this, you solve the problem because i can almost guarentee you that 99 out of 100 times it is the fear of embarrassment that causes the perfomance issue.
i could be wrong but i have spent alot of time with various dicks, experimented with them and studied their behavior extensively.
i know it's very difficult for a guy to admit it, but trust me that once you do, it'll no longer be such an issue.
you want to bet me ?
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It is definitely a vicious cycle and that's why we do our best to not even think about it happening. I can remember many years ago when I was in my first year of college I had a drop-dead gorgeous girlfriend and a great sex life with her. One day, for whatever reason, I couldn't get it up. This was really worrisome to me and I couldn't get it out of my head. To make matters worse, she felt like it had something to do with her (kids!) and kept bringing it up and asking how she could help. Anyway, about two weeks went by before I was finally able to get it up again (a lifetime in kid years!)
My point is simply that once it happens once, it is really difficult to shake it off and get back into the saddle. I hope that thinking about this again for the first time in years isn't going to cause another limpness episode.
I also find that applying lube to the penis before putting the condom on can help as well. That seems to keep things comfortable and can trick you a bit into thinking you are riding without cover.
I don't know about you guys but I think using a female condom would have the opposite effect on me. I've seen photos of them inserted and they really take away from the beauty of a woman's private parts if you know what I'm saying. I couldn't find the photos but here's a link to how they are inserted and I think you'll see what I'm talking about from an aesthetic perspective. The pussy becomes completely blocked by a condom...what's to like about that and how the heck is that supposed to get you more turned on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnyC_v0-DQ4
since its not really a physcial problem, thinking about it and talking about it are really the only ways to overcome it. ... you dont invoke the limpy god by thinking of it, you invoke it by fearing it, or fearing the embarrassment that comes with it.
sticking your head in the sand is normally just a temporary fix.
i know some guys who've tried erection enhancement drugs such as levetra or viagra but they wont help you overcome a psychological limp, only a physical one.
of course getting guys to admit they need a lil psychological help is like getting them to admit they need a map so enter the escort and hope she's one of the ones with a phd in stiffie. .
limmerick they also make a loud disturbing crackling noise.. and difficult to get them to stay in place.... not sexy at all.
coincidentally, the other day when i was posting in this thread, i caught a guy staring hatefully at a condom, then he tells me, i really hate condoms..... i burst out laughing and then had to explain about this thread so he wasnt scarred for life....
he was very happy with the rf-cof
anyway thats one way you can let the girl know you have an issue without actually admitting you have an issue and accidentally invoking the dreaded limpy god.
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We are not lost I'm taking a short cut honey;) You are right about it being psychological but I for one avoid thinking about it at all costs! I'm lucky enough that it hasn't been a big problem for me but talking about it brings back the fear that it will happen again. You really do sound like you have a PHD in Penis Studies so I'm going to have to agree with everything you say!
Another thing that works for me is a finger inserted into my anus...that keeps me hard and there is nothing like the sensation of cumming while receiving some anal play from someone who knows what she's doing.
We are not lost I'm taking a short cut honey;) You are right about it being psychological but I for one avoid thinking about it at all costs! I'm lucky enough that it hasn't been a big problem for me but talking about it brings back the fear that it will happen again. You really do sound like you have a PHD in Penis Studies so I'm going to have to agree with everything you say!
if you stick your head further down in the sand and your ass further up in the air, maybe someone will pop out ur pecker by poking ya in the pooper.
or you could get some good lube and slide it between some plump ass cheeks italian salami style.
get creative, you can still have fun and so can the girl ... lesbians all over the world do it everyday.
being able to joke about it and still enjoy each other will impress her a thousand times more than a woody willy anyway.
AND you can use it to our advantage to ask her to do something really NAUGHTY to help your wilting wiener out.
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sometimes i can tell when a guy has this problem because he'll throw the condom a dirty look and i'll catch it..
then i know..
so while i'm performing oral, i'll slip it into my mouth and on him without knowing
and he's fine.
afterwards, they ask me if they should be worried about having unprotected sex.
as if
then i show them and they inform me that they cant wear condoms.
lol
its completely psychological... you can wear one if you dont know it.
Here's a good demo video for all the ladies on how to put a condom on with your mouth: http://www.youporn.com/watch/4902/how-to-put-a-condom-on-with-your-mouth... . It's in Spanish but has English subtitles so as long as you can read you should be alright!
Thanks to all for this thread. When I first started to hobby I experienced this very problem and by trial and error I finally came to the same conclusions that you have.
I'm going to have to agree with everything you say!
thats good.
cuz i've been known to yank a guy's wiener off and smack his ass with it if he dont.
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I'm going to have to agree with everything you say!
thats good.
cuz i've been known to yank a guy's wiener off and smack his ass with it if he dont.
You're the doc ana.
Ana that is a great trick! I used to be the same way, when I firsted started, I met a few girls on the street for car dates. I really thought the condom ruined it. I had a girl that gave me a great fantastic bj, her name was Traci, I remeber, and after I thanked her for not useing one. She laughed and showed me her right hand, cupped in it a used condom! I was really confused. She said the same exact thing. When she knows a guy has a problem with condoms she says it is all in our heads. She slips it in her mouth, puts on with her mouth, keeps her thumb and pointy finger around the ring, never takes her mouth all the way of the tip, and used the ultra thin tan/clear colored trojans. My jaw dropped, if I did not see my cum sittin in that condom, still warm i am sure, I would never have believed it! I have used them everytime ever since! Guys- It is all in our heads! Ultra Thin- Extra Sensitive- Feels like nothing- these slogans on condoms our your friends!
Ana that is a great trick! I used to be the same way, when I firsted started, I met a few girls on the street for car dates. I really thought the condom ruined it. I had a girl that gave me a great fantastic bj, her name was Traci, I remeber, and after I thanked her for not useing one. She laughed and showed me her right hand, cupped in it a used condom! I was really confused. She said the same exact thing. When she knows a guy has a problem with condoms she says it is all in our heads. She slips it in her mouth, puts on with her mouth, keeps her thumb and pointy finger around the ring, never takes her mouth all the way of the tip, and used the ultra thin tan/clear colored trojans. My jaw dropped, if I did not see my cum sittin in that condom, still warm i am sure, I would never have believed it! I have used them everytime ever since! Guys- It is all in our heads! Ultra Thin- Extra Sensitive- Feels like nothing- these slogans on condoms our your friends!
i had a guy come over once...got a lil nervous when he saw my dog, said he was allergic but just a lil bit, i told him she's a yorkie, no shedding and well groomed and normally doesnt effect people very much with dog allergies... and he relaxed and said ok, but it's a good thing you dont have a cat or i wouldnt be able to even breathe right now.
he stayed 2 hours, the cat was under the bed the entire time and the cat's favorite place to sleep when noone is around is on the bed.
he never even sniffled.
i was like wow. .. what the hell.
i meant to tell him later, but got busy and forgot but i wouldve loved to hear his reaction.
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I see a girl that after the 3rd visit finally revealed she was a smoker, a heavy smoker. She said men call her and ALL claim not to dislike smokers but to be highly allergic, and she lies and says she does not smoke. Sprays febreeze on her shirt and around the doorway of her house, swishes some bubblegum flavored mouthwash, and puts the ciggerette out moments before the walk up her driveway. I laughed, the shit you girls go through to cater to our mental quirks, to give us the illusion of perfection. Appreciated on my end, though overlooked often enough, I am sure.
My problem with this is that she lies. If she smokes, fine but she should be honest about it. It's not fair to subject someone who is allergic to smoke to that kind of environment in my opinion. It's not like the Febreeze actually gets rid of the smoke, just the odor. I don't care what a provider does in her own time but if I specifically asked her about something that could effect our meeting I'd suspect an honest answer. I wonder what else this provider doesn't tell the whole truth about turtleboy?
I wonder what else this provider doesn't tell the whole truth about turtleboy?
her name ?
(snicker)
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I kind of see where you're coming from JohnJohn. I don't mind little white lies but if I was allergic to something and told the provider that, I'd expect her to tell the truth. Thank god I'm not allergic to pussy is all I can say.
I kind of see where you're coming from JohnJohn. I don't mind little white lies but if I was allergic to something and told the provider that, I'd expect her to tell the truth. Thank god I'm not allergic to pussy is all I can say.
well i was not trying to lie to dude about having a cat.
if he had asked me on the phone if i had a cat, i wouldve said yes.... in fact, if i had read my website, he wouldve known.
but since he was already there, and he wasnt suffering, i didnt feel like full disclosure was necessary.
i do not approve of lying about circumstances which could cause someone physical discomfort and in fact i requested to ter to change my profile from "smoking - no" to "smoking - yes but not during session" for just that reason.
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I've been contemplating posting on this topic for a while, and since we've gotten a little off topic, I'm going to ask this now. I seem to also be a "non-condom" type guy. I have no problem with keeping erect during BBBJ, of CBJ, but usually go semi-limp during intercourse. I will preface by saying that I do have a weight problem, and am not very well-endowed. It does get frustrating when I start to lose my erection when attempting most sexual positions, and the fact that I tend to pop out a lot is always in the back of my mind. Even when doing mish, if I don't go slow, and try to keep a good tempo., there's always the unpleasant, and humiliating chance of popping out. This is also complicated by the fact that I usually need to go very fast to be able to cum. One more thing, and I'm sure this a weight, and endowment issue also, but I find sex in the bed to be uncomfortable at times, because the buoyancy of the mattress it makes it hard for me to get a good rhythm going. I much prefer sex on a sofa, or a harder surface, but I've been to shy to ask this of a provider, or civie yet.
So, I guess I have two questions to ask - Firstly, does anyone think a cock-ring would help? I've never had to use one before, but maybe with my age, and weight, I think maybe I should look into it. How do you go about getting "fitted" for one? I know if they're not properly fitted, it can cause pain, stopped blood flow, or be too loose, and not serve their purpose.
Secondly, has anyone ever "practiced" using a condom with sex toys? I have a Fleshlight, and have no problem finishing with it, but have never used it wearing a condom. I know that we all know our own bodies better than anyone else would, and achieving orgasm would still not be a problem with myself (condom, or no condom) lol. Anyone think this approach might be helpful?
I'm really getting frustrated that I'm finding it impossible to finish when engaged in intercourse, and have to rely on a girl giving me HJ to cum. I have no SO right now, and am not in a position to p4p just to "practice". Any help from you more experienced ladies, and gents. is whole-heatedly appreciated.
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I kind of see where you're coming from JohnJohn. I don't mind little white lies but if I was allergic to something and told the provider that, I'd expect her to tell the truth. Thank god I'm not allergic to pussy is all I can say.
well i was not trying to lie to dude about having a cat.
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LOL, MEOW:)
I've been contemplating posting on this topic for a while, and since we've gotten a little off topic, I'm going to ask this now. I seem to also be a "non-condom" type guy. I have no problem with keeping erect during BBBJ, of CBJ, but usually go semi-limp during intercourse. I will preface by saying that I do have a weight problem, and am not very well-endowed. It does get frustrating when I start to lose my erection when attempting most sexual positions, and the fact that I tend to pop out a lot is always in the back of my mind. Even when doing mish, if I don't go slow, and try to keep a good tempo., there's always the unpleasant, and humiliating chance of popping out. This is also complicated by the fact that I usually need to go very fast to be able to cum. One more thing, and I'm sure this a weight, and endowment issue also, but I find sex in the bed to be uncomfortable at times, because the buoyancy of the mattress it makes it hard for me to get a good rhythm going. I much prefer sex on a sofa, or a harder surface, but I've been to shy to ask this of a provider, or civie yet.
So, I guess I have two questions to ask - Firstly, does anyone think a cock-ring would help? I've never had to use one before, but maybe with my age, and weight, I think maybe I should look into it. How do you go about getting "fitted" for one? I know if they're not properly fitted, it can cause pain, stopped blood flow, or be too loose, and not serve their purpose.
Secondly, has anyone ever "practiced" using a condom with sex toys? I have a Fleshlight, and have no problem finishing with it, but have never used it wearing a condom. I know that we all know our own bodies better than anyone else would, and achieving orgasm would still not be a problem with myself (condom, or no condom) lol. Anyone think this approach might be helpful?
I'm really getting frustrated that I'm finding it impossible to finish when engaged in intercourse, and have to rely on a girl giving me HJ to cum. I have no SO right now, and am not in a position to p4p just to "practice". Any help from you more experienced ladies, and gents. is whole-heatedly appreciated.
get a stretchy cockring, put it on over the base of the condom and it'll help the condom stay on.... my HAMMER has a crazy grip no matter what size the guy is but i've never had a problem when using a cockring... i recommend cockrings to all guys, especially the kind with a lil clit tickler.... anyway, i'm only comfy with stretchy ones cuz duh wieners dont stay the same size all the time..
some have 2 holes, one for ya balls, one for mr stiffy or just one hole and you can throw ya whole package in or just mr stiffy... whatever feels better for you.
all guys should use one really, they're FANTASTIC.
DONT forget to take if off... you should never have it on for more than 30-45 minutes.
i like the ones in the $15 price range the best.... the cheap ones can break if you stretch them too much..
oh and a word of advice about putting them on... CAREFULLY, i've snapped a couple of guys by trying to put it on and not holding it firmly enough, then it slipped out of hand and WHACKED them in the balls .... whoops.
i know what i'm doing now though... really... have not had that happen in YEARS
doggie style, you standing up by the bed.
rock on
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Great advice Ana. I'll definitely invest in a cock ring. I didn't realize that women would benefit from it so much too!! As always, you always seem to have the answers babe! Now, as far as the "doggie style, you standing up by the bed." - Yes, this is a good position, and I feel most comfortable (or productive) doing this, BUT as I commented in the "I couldn't get it up" thread, I have a penchant for Latinas. Soooooo, you know what that means....."I Like Big Butts, and I Can Not Lie". My extra belly flab, and those amazing Latina "Bunda" asses make Doggy Style a challenge sometimes lol. I'm a "curvy" guy, and I like curvy women. I'm really not into trying to bone a stick-figure type, runway model. No tits, no ass, no fun. Just MHO, and personal taste. No offense to you guys that like that type. I really do love all women, but I have my "flavor"
Maybe I just need to become a more in-depth studier of the Kama Sutra, and finally find a fucking position that'll work!! lol. I'm game to try them all though!
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Anyone care to interject on the "Fleshlight", or sex toy approach of "practicing"? I'm truly open to all suggestions here peeps. I need help!! lol
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