How do you define GFE?

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I find I'm still a little confused about what a GFE entails. What does a good GFE experience feature? Is it a certain number of things or more of an overall experience?

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For me the Girl Friend Experience (GFE) includes at least the following...

  • No Rush / No Upsell / No hussle
  • French Kissing
  • No rules like don't touch my...
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A great GFE experience is when it doesn't feel forced or when it doesn't feel like a session at all, but rather a pleasant sexual experience.

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Good question. GFE means "girl friend experience." In my book the time spent together should not be rushed and the time together should be more intimate too. If I want a quick one with nothing great going on I can go to my wife.

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GFE means different things to different people, and I usually classify a girl as a GFE based on our chemistry together.  The chemistry is a combination of attitude, service, performance and location.  On the service end of it I like a girl who allows kissing and does not have many, if any, 'rules' to follow.  I also like it when the woman seems to be enjoying herself instead of just going through the motions.  Last, but not least, it should not be a 'rushed' session with mulitples allowed and I get the 'full hour' even if the last part of it is a massage or just talking.

Just My $0.02,

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I think I'd define GFE (girlfriend experience) as when the girl behaves like my girlfriend or like the girlfriend I'd dream of having. There is physical contant not always available (french kissing) but there is "real" or the appearance of "real" closeness, love and affection. There is however brief, some emotional intimacy. This obviously dictates that she is not a clock watcher, a robot or a PSE (porn star experience).

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I agree with Aliados and BigGuy 100%. We know the scoop but don't have to be reminded before, during and after a session. JD
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All us girls have "some" rules guys but if we're treated nice and respectful you will get "more" than you paid for most times. Choco
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Mr. Big, your words are concise and ring true. I concur.
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I get a kick out of people that say GFE somehow means "anything goes"...I dunno if those guys ever HAD a girlfriend...but I never had an SO that believed in anything and everything...GFE, to me, means the girlfriend experience I fantasized about that I could now have w/ my provider...not the real life gfe, which is chock full o' limitations...
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Shyguy, I always thought it simply referred to a dame who allows french kissing and gives a BBBJ...
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I think everyone is touching on the right points in this thread but it is still missing some conciseness.  Seems like people have a tough time defining a GFE and that leads to disappointments when we arrange to see a GFE and she doesn't do what we think she will.  My definition of GFE, and I think it is a good one includes the following services/features:

Unrushed and Friendly-She really seems like she is enjoying her time with you.  Clockwatchers are never GFE

DFK-Anyone who questions this has never had a girlfriend.  For me the most important part about a GFE is deep kissing and lots of heated fondling and groping. 

BBBJ-If any of you ever had a girlfriend that did CBJ I hope you aren't still with her! Seriously though, BBBJ has got to be included in the service if it is to be considered GFE. I had many girlfriends in the past who didn't swallow so that isn't a necessity as far as I'm concerned.

DATY- This should definitely be on the menu for the session to be considered a GFE.

 

I think those are the most important things that make up a GFE.  Those who say that Greek or facials should be included are wrong as that would be a PSE type session IMO. 

 

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As a provider, I do offer the GFE ... I don't rush, I never watch the clock, I allow us enough time to enjoy eachothers company,  I always start with a massage, which gives us time to talk and get the connection going - and then let him take over from there, what he wants, in most cases, I will do.  My GFE sessions are not "no rules anything goes" sessions ... but, if he's enjoying himself, so am I ... every provider has rules and no-nos ... and the massage allows us both to get to know those limits.  I aim to please, and that should be the way every provider sees it ... but unfortunately, most don't. 

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BigBilly wrote:

I think everyone is touching on the right points in this thread but it is still missing some conciseness.  Seems like people have a tough time defining a GFE and that leads to disappointments when we arrange to see a GFE and she doesn't do what we think she will.  My definition of GFE, and I think it is a good one includes the following services/features:

Unrushed and Friendly-She really seems like she is enjoying her time with you.  Clockwatchers are never GFE

DFK-Anyone who questions this has never had a girlfriend.  For me the most important part about a GFE is deep kissing and lots of heated fondling and groping. 

BBBJ-If any of you ever had a girlfriend that did CBJ I hope you aren't still with her! Seriously though, BBBJ has got to be included in the service if it is to be considered GFE. I had many girlfriends in the past who didn't swallow so that isn't a necessity as far as I'm concerned.

DATY- This should definitely be on the menu for the session to be considered a GFE.

 

I think those are the most important things that make up a GFE.  Those who say that Greek or facials should be included are wrong as that would be a PSE type session IMO. 

 

I'd say this is the most concise definition I've seen of a GFE not sure how I missed this thread. Thanks Billy! By the way, I'm bumping this thread back up to the top because I think this is an acronym that some providers don't get...A GFE allows her to kiss you, period!

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The film director Pietrobruno (GFE: Girlfriend Experience) says: "GFE is a service that offers deep French kissing, bareback blow jobs and full sex; in other words, closeness and intimacy. It’s not so much the sex men are after, as the feeling of being with a girlfriend. Men are hungry for a sexual encounter that feels comfortable, unrushed, friendly, warm, connected, intimate, and most importantly, real – like she’s your girlfriend and you’re her boyfriend. A GFE date must not feel like a paid session. It has to feel like she is really into it. That she likes you, genuinely likes you."

"I am interpreting the GFE as being about the quest for realness and authenticity. Why does Daniel pay for sex when he can get it for free? Subconsciously, Daniel feels that prostitutes are more real than non-professional women. When he can make the prostitute Adrian orgasm he knows, not simply that she likes him more than all the other men she’s slept with, but more importantly, that he has broken through the facade of the whore to the real woman."

http://www.toromagazine.com/?q=node/1606

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My PS with my ATF at CH is what best defines GFE...Smiling

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Kaden K wrote:

My PS with my ATF at CH is what best defines GFE...Smiling

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And what would that be? Care to share by submitting a review?

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B2BWild wrote:

And what would that be? Care to share by submitting a review?

B2BWild,

Being that the CH is a non extras SC, there is no need to spell out what goes on there. Believe me when I tell you that my PSs with my ATF are indeed GFE, but without the inflated price one usually pays an escort.

Since you inquired, here is one of my reviews on the RB of my ATF, Tiff:

Review Date: 2006-06-07
Name: Tiffany
Organization: Crazy Horse
City San Francisco
Phone: 415-771-6259
Price: $100 - $160 (I tend to pay a bit more)
Ad Copy Simply the most amazing dancer I have ever patronized and I am an avid veteran hobbyist
Descr: Her looks are spinner like and so reminescent of Japanese Manga La Blue Girl.
Hygiene: Squeaky
Smokes: No
Punctuality: On time
Clock Watch: Went over

Review: I have now patronized this little lady for a while. I am an avid and voracious hobbyist that has in the past patronized for several years dancers at CH/MBOT/MSC (the old glory days)/and CP; and escorts as well.

Belive me when I tell you that to date no experiences that I have had before even match the level of intensity, sensuality, rawness, and eroticism that I found on this babe. She is simply amazing and we have been able to click at all levels. This has been the best ride of my life so far and its always reinventing itself and getting hotter and better by the day. I would not patronize her otherwise. I would love nothing more than to spell out here what goes on in detail, but believe you me, I can't.

I am a poster with various years of posting openly on the SC section with literally 1/2 TRs a week in many instances and literally lots of explicit TRs, seach and find out.

While your experience may vary, I have no doubt in telling you that the possibility for an extremely fulfilling SC trip is here with Tiffany and her phenomeal bag of skills. Many of the psoters that post anti Tiffany reviews either feel disgruntled because they had that and she lost interst on them and or were turned down. The reliability of their accounts is in par with their lack of social skills, literally. Beware!

Looks: face 9.5, body 9.5
Attitude: 10
Service: 10 Simply the most amazing dancer I have ever patronized and I am an avid veteran hobbyist.
Handle: Dehl
Review Id: 1165399

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GFE, like a girlfriend. A girlfriend in this modern age. Open Minded, but safe. Kissing. Oral. Mutual Pleasure. No rush. Affection. Sensual love making. Taking time to get to know each other before and after. Willingness to go outside the scope of rules and to not ever charge an additonal fee for something.
GFE
1. Kissing
2. DATY
3. Cuddling
4. Touching, anywhere
5. Never rushed, never upsell.

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cool, although from your review it's tough to say whether she's GFE or not.

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I have been with many GFE providers. One thing I have found that is not always defined in the GFE realm, is bbbj, not all GFE providers believe this to be a mandatory part of gfe. Many young women these days are taking precautions, even with the men the date, especailly if they are dating many men every single day, and with Gonnereah of the throat, Herpes of the mouth, HPV, and God knows what else you can catch from unprotected oral, I have to agree with the girls that say "GFE, like a girlfreind....Not SGFE....like a Stupid girlfriend"

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B2BWild wrote:

cool, although from your review it's tough to say whether she's GFE or not.

B2BWild the manager(s) at CH also surf the adult sites, so there is no need to spell out in detail what goes on there due to their no tolerance policy on extras. Believe you me, Tiff is everything that has been defined on this thread thus far...Smiling

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fair enough.

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There is a really informative post titled GFE vs PSE in the RealPrincessDiaries blog.

"Almost everyone agrees that French kissing, cuddling, and soft intimate moments are included. On the other end, some insist anal sex must be on the menu for it to be a true GFE, while others do not. Some believe that CIM (cumming in her mouth) should be a part of it, while others don’t think it’s required to be a true GFE. At its core, though, a GFE is designed to be more than about just the sex, but rather a 'getting to know one another' kind of deal where there’s more to it for the client than just a hole to fuck."

http://www.realprincessdiaries.com/2009/09/gfe-vs-pse/

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gfe providers are a litle more intimate then pse, however who really wants the real gfe anyho?. I dont really want to go look at furniture on sunday then spend two hours putting some damn heavy chunk of wood in various places until it looks just right where she thinks it should sit.
sorry was channeling my last SO's usual tasks for me there for a second.

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I consider GFE to be like a girlfriend, in this century. So if I was dating a women, and had just bagan dating her, and we were not in a monogomous relationship, I would expect GFE to be sex with oral, both ways, I expect cuddling, and defantley kissing, and laying there after and talking to each other, and never rushing, or putting price tags on extra services, but unlike a few people who say GFE means BBBJ, I would not expect a girlfreind in this century, of diseases and viruses, to not use a condom with me, and the other 30 guys she sees every week. Mathamatically, it would be certain that she will contract something within a year, and then put me at risk for getting it. So GFE to me means like a girlfriend, to pretend we are dating, and generally both enjoy each other equally, but at the same time, must be realistic, and realize I am probably the 3rd guy she has seen today, the 25th this week, and the 400th this year, and if she is not using condoms with all of them, since GFE providers always advertise GFE, then she would be the LAST person I would want to take the condom of with!
A few providers will accept the defination of GFE to include unprotected oral sex, the ones that don't care about their own health, or ours, but most I have found agree with me, it is everything on the above mentioned lists, but unprotected, at least according to the healthy ones that can look at statistics and do math.

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turtleboy wrote:

I consider GFE to be like a girlfriend, in this century. So if I was dating a women, and had just bagan dating her, and we were not in a monogomous relationship, I would expect GFE to be sex with oral, both ways, I expect cuddling, and defantley kissing, and laying there after and talking to each other, and never rushing, or putting price tags on extra services, but unlike a few people who say GFE means BBBJ, I would not expect a girlfreind in this century, of diseases and viruses, to not use a condom with me, and the other 30 guys she sees every week. Mathamatically, it would be certain that she will contract something within a year, and then put me at risk for getting it. So GFE to me means like a girlfriend, to pretend we are dating, and generally both enjoy each other equally, but at the same time, must be realistic, and realize I am probably the 3rd guy she has seen today, the 25th this week, and the 400th this year, and if she is not using condoms with all of them, since GFE providers always advertise GFE, then she would be the LAST person I would want to take the condom of with!
A few providers will accept the defination of GFE to include unprotected oral sex, the ones that don't care about their own health, or ours, but most I have found agree with me, it is everything on the above mentioned lists, but unprotected, at least according to the healthy ones that can look at statistics and do math.

I totally see where you are coming from but I don't completely agree. GFE without BBBJ should be advertised as a "safe GFE". I don't think I'm alone in thinking that a GFE should not include a CBJ. When was the last time you dated a girl and received a BJ with a condom...doesn't happen. FS on the other hand is commonly covered unless the GF and BF are in a monogamous relationship. Also, the chances of her or you getting anything from a BBBJ are practically zero.

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peronally i like the bbbj myself Evil

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well I agree there should be a custom of saying GFE or safe GFE, that would stop a lot of dissappointments.

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turtleboy wrote:

well I agree there should be a custom of saying GFE or safe GFE, that would stop a lot of dissappointments.

yep, it would at least put everyone on the same page. Dishonest providers use the term GFE because they know it's totally subjective and honest ones use it to advertise as well. Safe GFE or covered GFE would work for me.

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I would not call them dishonest. the defiaition of GFE does change from person to person, I think that if they are asked specificallly about the useage of covers for the preliminary activities, they should be honest in their awnsers. But if a provider that does everything GFE, and uses a thin condom for oral sex says safe GFE to not seem dishonest then providers are going to say "safe GFE" and then when you arrive they are going to put a plastic cover over their vaginas for DATY, will not kiss becuase of fluid exchange, make you wear latex gloves to put your fingers inside, and then yeah use a thick rubber for BJ, and when you say this sucks I want a refund you will get "well I said safe GFE"

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