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How do you feel about Multiple Reviews on same provider?
There is a provider that is always on the front page of the phoenix section for reviews, because every time she gets bumped down so other girls recently reviewed can take there place as the last 5 reviews, on the front page, this "hobbyist" writes her a new one. "He" always gives her the highest rating and even though she is $400 dollars "He" pays her and sees her multiple times a week every week. Her girlfriend is the only other person he has reviewed. In fact between the two providers, these two "hobbyist" have reviewed them, and only them, almost 10 times! Her last 4 reviews, in a row, were all from the same "hobbyist" claiming he is not shilling but she is just that good. She has no reviews from anyone other then those 2 "hobbyist" mentioned above. So if anyone knows who I am talking about, have you seen her, is she really that good? And how does everyone feel about someone reviewing the same provider over and over again?
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Gotta admit, it seems a little suspicious. Especially since, as you mention, she's $400 an hour and he talks about spending an hour just chatting with her before getting down to business. Not that it's impossible this guy has a lot of disposable income and can drop $800 a couple times a week on a provider, but it does seem unusual.
I'd imagine you are referring to this one:
http://www.naughtyreviews.com/escorts/mindi-minx-phoenix-latin-female
It's kind of tough to say if you ask me. The reviews are pretty descriptive so I suppose they could be real. On the other hand, it is pretty suspicious. I'm not sure what the policy is here on submitting more than one review either.
To answer the original question, I'm not a big fan of multiple reviews of the same provider. I think its okay if a year has passed or if her services have changed but if you are writing pretty much the same thing every few days then it ceases to be helpful. With that said, I would consider this girls 5 reviews as 1 review since they all come from the same guy...that's how I'd weigh it anyway. That way, the guy could write 50 reviews and it wouldn't change my opinion at all. If someone else gave her a bad review, I would be very skeptical about the good reviews and would probably lean on the side of caution and not see her. The provider has been around for awhile I believe and I think she is a pro so maybe this guy just genuinely likes her a lot.
I agree JohnJohn. The 5 reviews become 1 as far as I'm concerned. Since the guy doesn't have any other reviews, I'd be skeptical about taking his word for it. If he's telling the truth, he might have a special relationship with the provider and since all sessions are YMMV, you might not get the same kind of attention that he does. Heck, he could be some gorgeous millionaire that makes her knees weak and because of that she can't say no to anything he asks. I don't fit that description so I doubt I'd receive the same service.
I would consider this girls 5 reviews as 1 review since they all come from the same guy...that's how I'd weigh it anyway. That way, the guy could write 50 reviews and it wouldn't change my opinion at all.
I agree with your assessment JohnJohn.
If a reviewer has an update or an addendum to a review, or if any user wants to discuss their feelings about a review - NaughtyReviews provides a review comment section to facilitate dialogue about a specific review. Do you have something to add to the review? Do you agree/disagree with the review? Do you have a public question for the reviewer? The review comment section is the place where all of this could take place...
Multiple, successive reviews of a single provider by the same reviewer is certainly not encouraged.
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Cool feature.
The guy that runs TER apparently may be in big trouble for taking advantage of young naive providers and then writing up phoney postive reviews for the ones he likes and negative reviews for the ones he doesn't like.
I used to contribute there but got fed up with a number of things about that site, not the least of which was the criminal nature of the owner. He is currently on trial for hiring a hitman to kill someone and it is well known that in the past they have forced providers into providing freebies in order to continue with a high rating.
As for the first comment, I am certain all those reviews by this hobbyist are all her! She has been around long enough that someone else should have had something good to say by now. And as far as them being detailed and descriptive so it seems like it could be real, well who would know how to write a review about a person better then the person themself, especially if it was being used to advertise that this person is just so the best thing that walked the earth, or at least that's how $1,200 a week every week by the same guy seems to me!
As for the 2nd issue, I have heard some really bad stuff about TER, I was a member for years, untill the things I heard were actually proven to me. I saw a girl, ms Summer Destiny, that told me TER took down all her good reviews and would only put up the bad ones. She said that out of 15 reviews most girls have a couple "assholes", but it don't look bad cause of the other 13 great ones, but take those away, her business is screwed. She said that clients of hers tried to review her and no matter there history with ter the reviews (those rated 7-10) would be "unapproved". I was very skeptical of her story, but she showed me a hand full of printed copies of her past reviews and the known hobbyist that wrote them, reviews that no longer exsisted. All great,( mostly 8's and 9's) Then she dared me to write one on her, promising it would never get approved if I had anything nice to say. Sure enough after I had 11 reviews to my name, all approved, no problems, hers was rejected. I understand if she did something wrong to get delisted, but she did not, and ethically they should show all reviews or no reviews, not minipulate what the viewers can see, and sabatoge this poor girl the way they did. She actually had to stop working. A real shame becuase if you read her 5 reviews here at Nuaghty Reviews, before she dissapeared, you will see that overall most were more then happy with her.
Sadest part is she said that it all started the day after she turned a caller away that threatened her with bad reviews as a rip off if she did not do him (anal included) for free, she obviously did'nt give in to that behavior. Can't be certain if the two things are connected or not, but all I can say is I saw with my own eyes, in fact her 2 bad ones are still there, and the 6 good ones she printed are still no where to be found.
Stick with NaughtyReviews, much more ethical!
I had very similar experiences to yours turtleboy. The worst thing about it was the arbitrary nature by which some of my reviews were approved and others were rejected. I also found that whenever I made a forum post to address this issue that it too would be deleted. Most of the folks on TER know that there is some shady business going on in the background...heck the owner is going to jail if you needed further proof of their ethics.
It sickens me when I see how much poeple rely on TER and look down on other smaller sites, especially since I too was comitted to only seeing ter girls. But after learning what I learned, and then doing my research not on TER, but about TER, it just sickens me what they get away with. They are too big, too powerful, and too corrupt, and jail is exactly where people like that belong. but someone needs to take some of that power they have over making or breaking working girls as they please, away from them! I don't know if it is possible, they pay a lot of money to advertise in Hustler, and many other places, and people think because they are well known they are legit or ethical. I wish I could do more then gripe, for now all I know to do is tell all my pals about NaughtyReviews and try to slowly, but surely. increase its popularity, since ethics seem to be much more present here. That is why every girl I see, and enjoy my time with, at least partially, I write a review on them here, so that they might link the review in thier adds and other men will check out this site.
The more and more I hear about TER, the more worried I'm getting about keeping myself on there. It isn't the feedback from providers that I'm relying on, but the ones from you hobbyists! It's definitely difficult for providers to find ethical and fair places to advertise, but as far as the boards go, we have to keep careful watch on what's being said and where. Time will tell, I suppose.
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Welcome aboard MDelaney. You look beautiful. I can't comment about TER because I've never used it but from what I hear it sounds iffy at best on the moral aspect.
Thanks, Johnjohn! I'm really enjoying my time here so far. I love debating and learning about every aspect of sexuality, and when it's with grammarphiles? I'm in love. Morality and ethics aside there are only a limited amount of places to advertise - especially if a provider is in a small town.
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The girls with pages and pages of good TER reviews will countinue to get good reviews becuase that is what TER makes sure of. But a girl that gets a couple negative ones will NEVER get a good one again, they make sure of that too. Just try it for yourself if you don't beleive me. I dare anyone, to find a girl on TER that has a coule bad reviews (not rip off level, but not good) and open up a TER account and write her a good one, it does not have to be fantastic, just not mean, and I PROMISE YOU, it will come back UNAPPROVED.
For you men wanting to take this dare, but are worried about it being approved and possible betraying your fellow hobbyist. Go see the girl, TOFTT and then honestly write about the positive points of your session. It will still say UNAPPROVED. They choose who will succeed and who will fail, and they use us as their tools to do so. Sad but True.
For the providers, if you already have multiple good reviews you should be in the clear, they go after the new girls ( 3 months or newer usually so noone ever knows any better).
For the providers, if you already have multiple good reviews you should be in the clear, they go after the new girls ( 3 months or newer usually so noone ever knows any better).
Great.. that's good news ...
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Sorry to scare you, I would have never believed it myself, but it was thrown in my face a way I could not dismiss. You are likely to be contacted by someone, though you won't know who it is, and that person may strait up offer good reviews for freebies, or protection from bad ones, or he may say nothing, see you, and based on his opinion decide if he will play God and make or break you. They have representatives all over, amny here in phoenix, and many in Californa, and just keep your guard up. My advice is to get as many good ones as you can before this happens, becuase after you get about 3 or 4 it seems the girl is in the clear.
I have been following this trend for a while now, from both sides the providers and the johns, and this seems to be the only way.
If you get bad ones they will not take them down even if you beg to be delisted, if you claim retirement, or legal issues, it does not matter. Destiny said her lawyer advised she have them removed immediately for legal reasons, that she was having criminal charges and forced retirement, they still would not take them down.
But if you are not on their "punish" list, then all you need to say is " I am retired, or I am taking a break" and they will remove all your reviews. Shady Shady
she had two profiles.. .so maybe thats why there is so much confusion ??
one with an agency, one as an independant
ter is under new management and DOES care about the integrity of the reviews.. .. and DOESNT approve of the way things have been handled in the past.
time will tell.
i also agree that all reviews should stay up and let people decide for themselves which ones sound fake.
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I agree that reviews should stay up whether good or bad unless it can be definitively proved they are fake. TER's practices are old news and the most concerning part is obviously that they were intimidating providers if they wanted to receive good reviews. If there practices have changed then great but I think I'll stay away from a site whose owner is charged with hiring a hitman and who control absolutely everything posted in their forums...You either tow the line or they won't post what you write so the whole thing is completely skewed.
I've often wondered what keeps the girls on review sites from writing reviews about themselves all the time... I know I couldn't, because I have that honesty-hangup-idealism thing that enables me to sleep well, but some are lying all the time anyway - why wouldn't they write fake reviews, too?
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I'm sure they do write review about themselves on all of these sites. BUT, I think they probably get caught a good deal of the time because it is usually pretty easy to tell when a woman is writing about a sexual encounter compared to when a man is. Us guys are usually more graphic and inclined to talk about the lady's "bits and pieces" and whether she swallowed every last drop. I don't really have a problem with the provider writing a review as long as she performs what she writes she does. The fake reviews that I've seen in my time have all failed to discuss the things that are important to most hobbyists. Primarily: did she kiss and if so was it with tongue? Did she suck it, and if so was it without a raincoat.
I've often wondered what keeps the girls on review sites from writing reviews about themselves all the time... I know I couldn't, because I have that honesty-hangup-idealism thing that enables me to sleep well, but some are lying all the time anyway - why wouldn't they write fake reviews, too?
when you join a forum, your ip address is displayed to the admin, every time you post, your ip address is logged.
they can pull up your profile and see all the ip addresses you've ever used.
if a review comes in, theres an ip address attached to it, if it matches any of the ones you've used, you're probably busted.
unless they do a search of that ip address and see that LOTS of people have used it, which would be indicative of a public network of some sort.
girls try it, they get caught, they get banned, they claim they are innocent, they arent, they come back as a new provider, new website blur face, a client recognizes her, reports her as banned provider, she gets banned again, claims innocence, admin says fly to la so i can see you're not the same girl, she refuses cuz she's guilty
and ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S WEARING A CHASTITY BELT MORE SECURE THAN FORT KNOX AND SWEARING SHE'LL NEVER HAVE SEX TO BE RE-INSTATED.
ok ya skank
you'll do it for a few c notes but you wont do it to get re-instated, which you claim is paramount to your success.
hmmmm ? anybody ?
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Gotta admit, it seems a little suspicious. Especially since, as you mention, she's $400 an hour and he talks about spending an hour just chatting with her before getting down to business. Not that it's impossible this guy has a lot of disposable income and can drop $800 a couple times a week on a provider, but it does seem unusual.
jeffrey's the one i suspected of going after summer destiny, i tried to help her through it, tried to contact her reviewers to get her some support, but honest reviewers dont want to get involved with the bullshit.
unfortunately, losers with no money have all the time in the world
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Aint that the truth.
I'm pretty "open" and don't like moderation in any form. If a guy has reviewed the same girl 10 times in the last three months it's pretty obvious to anybody that she's either his wife or he is in someway working for her. Use the right head and you can usually tell what to believe and what not to.
If someone reviewed me more than once, I wouldn't mine, but I'd like it to be on something different and not just the entirety of the experience. Say, for each time I'm reviewed, in the session it was FS, but we tried a new position or toy.
I agree that if the same girl is reviewed by the same guy with the detail and frequency of whomever we're talking about, there's something fishie there.
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If someone reviewed me more than once, I wouldn't mine, but I'd like it to be on something different and not just the entirety of the experience. Say, for each time I'm reviewed, in the session it was FS, but we tried a new position or toy.
I agree that if the same girl is reviewed by the same guy with the detail and frequency of whomever we're talking about, there's something fishie there.
if the reviews are basically the same experience but just showing consistency of the level of service over a period of time, (6 months-1 year) i think thats a valid reason for multiple reviews on the same provider as well.
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If someone reviewed me more than once, I wouldn't mine, but I'd like it to be on something different and not just the entirety of the experience. Say, for each time I'm reviewed, in the session it was FS, but we tried a new position or toy.
I agree that if the same girl is reviewed by the same guy with the detail and frequency of whomever we're talking about, there's something fishie there.
if the reviews are basically the same experience but just showing consistency of the level of service over a period of time, (6 months-1 year) i think thats a valid reason for multiple reviews on the same provider as well.
Another good point!
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