What you pay has nothing to do with the quality of the experience. Most the high dollar girls were once a lot less expensive. Were they less fun when they charged less? Nope in fact they were probably more fun.

If you want to give them extra then give them what you like. They should not expect it and may appreciate it. But I would save the tips for a girl you have seen a bit and like.

if she only allows 1 pop, make sure you tip your fellow hobbyist and write a review letting them know.

you gave her enough already.

tipping in the hobby shouldnt be compared with that of the restaurant industry... we are already well compensated without the tip so i would suggest only tipping a girl when she has ACTUALLY earned it from you and you want to show your appreciation.

also, you can be more creative with tips in the hobby.. i get gift cards, tickets to sports events or concerts... it doesnt have to be cash.

honestly i dont tip unless i had a really good time that i will remember fondly forever. if the price is set then its the price dont feel like you have to tip.
if they ask you to bring a tip over the rate expect the upsell to start and act accordingly.
lol i negotiate like a used car dealer at the first of the month when the upsell starts or just leave and go see someone else.

As a rule of thumb you shouldn't tip. Waiters get tipped because they earn minimum wage and depend on tips to make ends meet. Providers earn well above that.

Price doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether you have a good time or not BUT be very weary of providers advertising very cheap rates as they are often scams or offer poor service. If you don't care whether you get multiple pops, DFK, DATY, there isn't any point in paying a lot IMO. You pay more to be with a professional who actually seems to enjoy doing what she does. If you just don't feel like using your hand, 100 bucks will usually get you what you need.

Wow Anna that is great comming from you a provider but i think that is cool that you get outher forms of tips.

But if you look at reviews alot of guys will leave tips and i guess part is what is consider a tip in a amp. they call it a tip but you are really just paying for the extra services that you want and they very in price.

on the outher subject of the provider priceing has any one ever been with someone that cost like say $1000.00 and tell us why it was so much better and worth the price?

I'd never spend that much to be honest. I'd say only porn stars and elite escorts who cater to public officials charge that much...public officials pay more hoping that the beans won't be spilled.

most ive ever spent was 500 for an overnight with a total rockstar in brazil. she was unreservedly worth it too

Pet peeve of mine...why would you tip unless you truly had a mind-blowing unexpected experience. Please don't help rate inflation.

BTW moebius, I enjoyed Brazil a lot too Those girls put American girls to shame.

Higher rates sometimes it is just simply she has higher costs. In general, someone more concerned with $ spent than connection cannot separate quality from quantity, and the escorts set higher rates so that they can avoid these individuals. They know if they put a rate of 300+ / hour, the guys who complain that North American sps charge more than Bangkok sps won't contact them. This makes them happy, lol. There are enough guys out there who actually want to spend a lot of money on an escort, because to them it shows the woman that money truly is no object, and because they can use this in a way that flaunts it. Typically very expensive escorts are not women any regular guy is going to meet at a bar or pickup in a grocery store. They will turn heads anywhere you go, they would be someone taken out for dinner in order to show off to impress others. These are the sorts of things that are important to wealthy men who book appts with highend escorts. To prove that they can, that they have an excessive amount of money.

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500/hr with a 2 hr minimum, at home, more than that to travel. Nothing like your wife, for sure.

RE: tipping, I don't think you should be tipping independents. They set the rate they want or need, extras are not necessary or expected. In amps, or with agencies, etc, you know that what you pay is not what she takes home. She may end up with less than half of the fee. There is one particular Vancouver mp here where you could see a woman who looks much like a model there, spend 320 an hour, but she only actually gets 200/hr. If she was independent, with the same looks and services, she could easily charge 350-400 and keep it all. In a micro here (illegal amp) you might pay 120/half hour, but the sp will only keep 70 of it since the people who run these places get a cut out of every call, for the room, ads, and to book the appts. You would be a real jerk to not tip a girl in a micro, especially if the service was great.

ive never really understood the financial masochists. i know they exist but they are a strange foreign lot i dont really want to associate with.

you must not be all that familar with the phoenix market because i can tell you with complete and utter assurance no one is paying the advertised rates unless they are either rank newbies, out of towners or just have a horrible rep locally.

even the bad rep guys can get a discount if they call at the end of month when the rent is due.

its a buyers market right now and if your paying msrp..... well its your money.

I think every market is different, but the one common denominator is usually that rate negotiating is considered low class, and the sps don't want to deal with guys who do it. There are some who say if you don't like the quoted rate, just say thanks and move on to the next one. Why bother insulting the sp by offering less than she is asking? Does this get you better service and attitude when you have bargained your way into a lower price? Do you become a regular client of hers, thus making it worth her while to have given you that discount in the first place? Post a review, showing the regular rate as being worth it? What is it about haggling that would make you a preferred client as opposed to a blacklisted client?

Seriously, if you cannot afford the hobby, there are other things to do with your $$ There are sps out there everywhere at a variety of rates, and many of them will be at the rate that works for you. Stick with them and forget about trying to bring everyone else down to the lowest common denominator, cuz frankly the higher rates are set specifically so they don't have to deal with anyone who can't afford it, or when the guy thinks it is okay to offer less than what was asked -- and sometimes using it as a form of blackmail or intimidation really, which is what I object to. If the rate is too high for you, call the next sp. And keep calling until someone tells you what you want to hear.

i honestly dont know anyone who bothers to negotiate, we dont need to. the nice thing about phoenix is you can find anything you want from a 100 pump and dump to a 3k a night porn star if thats your thing.

i will note that majority of the specials are coming from the girls in the mid to high range locally so you must be incorrect about how insulated they are from the economy.

things have to be rough when even the so called top girls are offering half hour rates.......

a few guys told they have tried this out of curiosity.
one of them spent $1500 on a NIGHTMARE.
he said he would rather get ripped off 15 times in a row by $100 craigslist girls.
another said he spent $1400 and regretted it.
and another one told me i was waaaay better than the girl he paid $1000 to the night before but for some reason that didn't make me feel as good as you'd think.

when you pay that much, the only talent you're really paying for is the photo editing talent.

OK just seeing that link to classyangel.
I would buy her a lexus, and once in bed it would most likely be the best three seconds of my life.

lol. I only tip if the service was simply amazing, or if I received an extra service. The prices are usually already high enough that most girls seem to not expect tips, I never saw a dissappointed face when I left without tipping.
Never been with a $1000 girl, but I have to agree with her, paying those prices is paying for her professional website designer, personal photographer, hair sylist, and other advertisement expenses.
Think about it, you pick up the yellow pages and call from a big decrotive add for an expensive "landscape designer" do you really get a better looking yard then if you picked up 2 illegals immigrants outside Home Depot? All that extra expense often goes to advertising.
There are low budget girls,for those hard times (60-120), regular priced girls (approximately 200-350) and then there are the ones that might really be the once in a lifetime I can't believe this is not a dream, or more then likely why did'nt I just go see one of the girls I already knew was worth her rate? (500-1500)

I do agree that it is more acceptable to tip agency providers and AMP providers to compensate for what they have to pay for the house. Still, I don't like to tip. By the way, there's no way I'd pay 500 for an hour with that lady. She looks like she's got more plastic in her than anything else and her face is nasty in my opinion. More of an "all-natural" kind of guy myself. I prefer cutesy to fake.

Well, I work as an independent escort. I want the gift that I ask from a client. I usually get that amount. My clients have a full hour unless he wants to leave early. I do not expect tips, but I am happy when it happens, however if a client expects a service that is not included in the donation, then yes I expect a tip. We both leave happy.
http://www.2chat.us

I do not feel tipping is automatic with the rates the girls are getting.
I also feel that is you have a good time or great time its well worth the tip.

services that are not included in the donation are upsells.

nothing wrong with upsells as long as you are upfront about them.

unfortunately, the rip off agencies here in phoenix quote the guys a rate normally $100-$150 and they tell the guy that tips arent required. ... however once the girl gets there she collects the $100-$150 (agency fee) and then she promptly tells the guy that he just paid the fee to get her there but if he wants her to do anything, then he will have to pay more for those services.

the guy then says, but your agency said tips arent required.

the girl says, they're not. you are not required to purchase any additional services from me.. we can just talk.

and then the guy doesnt want to waste the money he's already got invested in her so he gives her more money... this cycle keeps repeating itself until the guy is completely broke and then she leaves.

i am not accusing you of doing this however, i am just letting you know that the statement you just made is normally followed by a very expensive nightmare for the guys, especially here in phoenix.

CH what you just described i would consider an upsell situation, as long as everything was understood prior to the appt i would be ok with it. during would be another story.

I couldn't agree with you more.

I'm told that there are mega high priced girls (who often don't advertise online) available to the ultra-rich. They are usually only recommended by "high level gentlemen" via word of mouth. These girls might sometimes have "supermodel" looks and posses sexual proficiency, but (as mentioned earlier) are paid well mostly because they keep their mouth shut.

I strongly believe that even the highest priced escorts out there might not necessarily be as fun as the $250 gem you might find here...

Yes. Her phrasing was kind of vague. Upsellers love vague. I'm not saying that Honey is an upseller, but I definitely understand how you could get that from her statement.

I think we're missing the point somewhat about high-price escorts. With them the "fun" is secondary to the hobbyist, and sometimes doesn't happen at all. The mega-rich not only want beauty, but brains & sophistication too. An escort that can speak a foreign language & converse knowledgeably about geopolitical events. Someone who would enjoy a night at the opera or symphony. The mega-rich aren't really paying for the "fun in bed". They're paying for something more.

Also, I don't mean to imply that any escort not asking for exorbitant donations isn't intelligent or sophisticated. But like automobiles, there are different levels of expectations based on costs. And even though I just compared escorts to automobiles, I didn't mean it as an insult. Let me end this before my foot goes deeper in my mouth.

Tips are always appreciated but not necessarily required. If you had a mind blowing experience and your toes are still curled up and you just want to show extra gratitude, then tip what you would like. But don't feel bad if you don't, by any means. Just make sure you both enjoy each other thoroughly Good tippers typically do get extra special treatment in the future, however. It's an appreciation thing both ways.

OK PAPADEE
i get your point and i think i would agree with what you are saying.
Now a couple have said if you had a extra good time a good tip is nice a better for the next time you are there how many of you go back because it was so good and then it is like they dont even no how you are and you try and tell them something about the first visit to remid them and sometimes it clicks but then they ask you if you need directions.

If you are going to return a tip is never a bad idea. If you aren't, don't even think about it.

My first time around, is used to work for an agency like this. the 150 was the agency free. If you legitimately came right back and left with no more money than that, you would get a portion of it but you've you and the guy have basically wasted time. It was really only problematic with new guys. The others ones knew the deal. The internet wasnt in the picture back then, or at least not like now. So the guys called for the girl or type of girl they wanted.

It was a real hustle, in a way. But then I was picked up by a better agency and one reason, I'm sure is because I do speak more than one language.

When I desired to return to this new day of escorting, I first thought of working phones for an agency, then I thought
about it and decided to provide again.

My rates are inclusive for what one would call GFE and if one can do more in their time they can.
Tipping is not requred. But it is nice getting those little gifts sometimes. It's sweet and some of them are really
practical. I received a really nice digital frame from someone.

When there is a providers info on here but no reviews yet, who puts the info in is it the provider?

Dogger, if you mean on this site and the basic profile, the provider bulids her profile. Actually, I like that because somewhere else, the first reviewer builds it. Mine was completely screwed up. He made me 26-31. Nice compliment but I my site has my age at 10 years older. I had to write to get that fixed.

I think it's best because if I'm with just a guy, he is not going to know if I touch girls or not. He puts no or I don't know I want to service couples or women clients, problem...Then I haveto get that changed. If he finished a certain way (regualar) noone knows if she CIM or not but she does so she can put it. BUT if she finds it disgusting, or just dont do it, she'll put no.

Even though the girl builds here there is a report button for info that is inaccurate. The first guy liked me and my body and put average, BUT I have baby fat and Im fine with it, so that needed to be changed. It was and is a nice review but if someone was looking for a somewhat thinner 26 year old that would have been hard to explain. And some guys really screw up some ethniciities- they make non-accented Latin girls into white or black, Some fair skinned black girls into whatever.

So it's best we build it ourselves, IMO.

Now I can see the other side-People could put anything. But believe me if I dont want to do g...k, I'm not going to put it.

In most cases where a profile is not yet reviewed, a provider is usually the one who created her profile. However, there are some profiles without reviews that were added by hobbyists.

One way tell if a profile was added or claimed by a provider is by checking to see if the profile is a linked profile:

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