Thanks for bringing this up Marauder69. This has been a problem ever since guys started rating girls. Part of it is certainly related to the fact that everyone has different tastes and that one guy's 4 is another guy's 3 but I don't think that's the only problem. I think a lot of people forget to think objectively and forget to think about all the other providers they've seen when they are rating the current one. They can't all be 5's and in my opinion, there are very few at all who deserve to receive 5's across the board. When I'm reviewing a provider, I think about all the others I've seen and how the current one stacks up against them. In this way, I feel I can give a more accurate rating even though it may be tougher on the provider.

It's something about guys and sex- ever been in a chat room when a woman gets on cam? Hell, she doesn't even need to be on cam, she can just have a profile pic, and 16 horny guys will tell her how gorgeous she is and she's the most beautiful girl in the world and they'd do anything for just one night with her.

She's not the most beautiful girl in the world and, realistically, saying you'd do anything to fuck a woman is kind of insulting, but some dudes just don't get that and are prone to let their sense get away from them when it comes to getting laid, or even the idea of getting laid. I do not think there is a cure.

You hit the nail on the head Ian. The only cure would be castration and I don't even want to go there. Still though, I at least try to be objective when evaluating a session and I think what Billy said about comparing the provider of the moment with one's of the past is the best way to make an objective review.

When I check out reviews, I read them instead of relying too heavily on a ranking system because the experience is usually a lot more revealing than just the number of stars they have. Maybe one guy has a thing for older "plump" women when I much prefer younger spinners.

I agree that it can be difficult to be objective but here's how I look at the Appearance side of the rating:

1 star: She's ugly, out of shape, and doesn't take care of herself.
2 stars: She's below average looking, has a few extra pounds, and not much of a face either
3 stars: She looks good, in good shape, nice face, and smells good (this is where I would place most providers)
4 stars: She's hot, sexy face, a real head turner, nice toned body and well maintained.
5 stars: I jizz in my pants when she opens the door. She is a one in a million beauty queen who has caused accidents when walking on the street dressed conservatively (There might be one or two of these girls in a city of 5 million).

Now, over to performance:

1 star: She wasn't who she said she was and she didn't do what she promised she would do. Basically a bad experience from a dishonest provider.
2 star: Basically did what she said she would do but wasn't into it at all. The pictures are real but show her at her best.
3 star: I had a good time and got exactly what I expected I would from her. I'd probably see her again. (This is where I'd put most good providers)
4 star: She completely exceeded my expectations and I still can't get her out of her mind. She did everything and she did it enthusiastically.
5 star: The fuck of a lifetime. Everything was awesome and the chemistry between us led to this being something I will remember forever.

So, while there is a lot of subjectiveness, if people kept to the above guidelines the star system would be a heck of a lot more useful for everyone.

Thanks for chiming in guys. And thanks for your personal review guide HungWell...

I agree with how you describe both 5 star ratings in appearance and performance - if guys could be trusted to rate this way, the world would be a better place. (and, unfortunately, those 5 star girls would probably be able to charge a shitload)

My favorites get 5 stars. I love a good memorable lay and if she looks like she could be in a magazine and keep a clean locale, that's 5 star quality. 4 star is usually cute in looks and an average lay with a pleasant personality and a clean locale. Anything below this I wouldn't see anyway so don't look for too many 3 stars from me. I walk away. I'm a picky arrogant bastard when it comes to my money. If it looks likes a duck, it fucks like a duck. If the neighborhood looks unsafe, so is her habits. This is 3 star and under to me.

Most companies we work for would fire any review on a employee with a 3 star. That's like C- in grade school and a D+ in work performance. I will give a 3 when asked about cleanliness if I felt she wasn't clean or I would give a 3 on looks if she was below average. However a 4 or 5 would appear in the same rank of my review if her performance was great despite looks or locale. Once everything is tallied, you get a clear picture of the stars given I think. Therefore I think we are being as honest as we can be when we answer seperate questions this way.

Thanks for the clarification, guys!!! Great input. I'd love to read these descriptions by the guys who reviewed me... guess they saw it more like Jonathan.

because I know I'm certainly not a "one-in-a-million-beauty-queen"...

I sort of see where you are coming from but I'm sure you'll agree that 5 stars across the board should be reserved for exceptional experiences with exceptionally good looking women. If you give everyone a 5 just because you had a good time with them and they were above average looking then there is really no point in rating them at all IMO.

most rating systems we've seen are flawed to begin, they are not segmented into enough "components" rating ones consistency to her pics is a different story of rating ones face as is also rating her body, etc. Further, we suspect the "grade inflation" happens because the grading interface does not also include a definition of what each of the grades represent.

Just our 4 cents.

I agree with your 4 cents and I'll offer my two: I think that if specific performance grades were linked to services offered it would help substantially, for example, how can you give a provider a 5 star performance rating when she doesn't kiss? I'd imagine that they don't want to add fifty categories to the review process because people would get fed up with filling out all the star ratings before they finished the review but I think people should really start to think a bit about what 5 stars really means---it should mean perfect.

Perhaps 5 stars doesn't offer enough depth, we believe a 7 star system offers more depth.

Lets take the performance category, besides listing each act separately - (which in our opinion creates a sticky problem, especially for providers in Phoenix, where LE are using reviews to indict girls and johns) The category should be split in two, one for the breadth of services offered, the other for porformace of the services received.

So, if the girl does not DFK and/or offer trips to Greece, then to rate her she would probably be a 5 is services offered (still respectable since most girls would fall around that neighborhood). But lets say of the services she did offer, her performance was clearly once-in-a-lifetime, then she'd get 7 stars.

Now, lets say reviews went "away" and the only think left was a comprehensive 7 star rating system that DOES NOT go into details about specific sex acts and you want to know not only if a girl does BBBJCIM but that she can also DT.

We believe the optimal way to find this info out to to use a more efficient "back channel".

The first thing you would do is look at the girls last 4 or 5 reviewers. Select those who have strong review histories and have seen other reviewed girls. This demonstrates a commitment to the hobby and hopefully some commitment to fair reviewing. Of the 5 reviewers, lets say 2 meet your personal "comfort" criteria, you then send them a PM to ask specifically, did Provider X offer such service. One gent gets back to you later that day, all he has to say is "yes" or "no".

The hobby has changed a lot in 10 years... It will continue to change - it has to. This is one way we see the review system evolving to offer both parties greater protection and better experiences.

I'm not saying you're wrong Christine/or hubby! but I personally judge reviews differently. I don't pay any attention to the star ratings but actually read through the reviews to garner the information I require. After all, who am I to say what is a 5 star provider for someone else? Some guys are blown out of their socks when they receive a totally covered no kissing time while others like me are not.

@HighRoller, please don't mistake our "views" as implying that you or anyone else is wrong.

Hey, we love reviews, but the sad fact is that they are becoming dangerous.

We wish things were different, but, our justice system has made its stand, we all in the hobby will need to learn to adapt and adjust to play safe.

the law is using reviews to indict?? now that seems to be a catch 22. What if some candy ass cop doesn't like you and types a bunch of BS on a review site just to get you? Hey we all know cops are upstanding people just Ask RODNEY KING, or watch the video of him getting his ass beat. and no one in blue saw it. Watch out he's going to taz granny. They shouldn't be able to use shit like that, since some or most is inflated.

Hey, we agree that they SHOULDN'T be allowed to do that shit, but the problem is, THEY ARE! Talk about F**Ked Up!

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I think it's stupid for providers to keep info. Look at the last bust of the escort service. They had names and addreses of cliants. Look at that fool Heidi Flice. What happens to the Judges, lawyers and police that are on those lists, you know they use these services. The ones at ----- justis court did. OOps did I say that.

Totally agree with you. If you keep the information, they will be able to get it out of you. Lots of providers say they keep some info to keep a record of clients likes and dislikes but I personally think that's a huge error. Do us all a favor and don't keep anything on file.

If a provider keeps absolutely no records, then they either have to commit your likes etc to memory (not easy) or you'll have to remind her somehow. Further, if she can't remember you for your second visit, will you accept going through verification a second time?

Hmmm, you do have a point there. Still, I'd rather go through verification twice if it meant you didn't have me on file. If you were to ever get busted, and you had me on file, guess who else would be getting busted?

We can't speak for other providers, however, if anyone requested that we delete all record of communication with a gent and assured us that he'd be happy to go through repeated verification for repeat visits, we see absolutely no problem with that. In fact, we might actually prefer this.

Sorry, we didn't mean to hijack the thread on ratings.

(Alex)

We are doing some consulting with other review boards, we are advocating moving from 5 stars to 7, a little more granularity with an explanation of what each star should mean. Further, we are also advocating for a categorized rating system, where you'll be asked to rate an experience in 5-7 categories, the ratings across all categories could then be weighted and produce a composite score.

Conscientious scoring and application of ratings could help curb rate inflation. If we integrate trending analysis, we could also identify (and possibly refuse) a bloated score.

Well, here's my 1 cent. This site is called Naughty Reviews, not (ahem, Michelin's) 3, 5 or 7 star ratings.

@FeelinGood. Thank for your opinion.

If you check your facts and discover what we say is true, what difference does it make what the name of the site is? The real possibility is that if reviews become hazardous to ones safety and freedom then we'll all be forced to find another way - foolishness would be to stay the course out of a commitment to a brand name.

If the predictions come to pass, the hobby must be prepared.

Thus, we advocate for a collection of categories that are then rated with definitions of what each rating means - absent of specific sexual acts of course. Then with the introduction of a robust back-channel, private conversations between hobbyists can begin to help you discover details you are most interested in - in private.

Lastly, why wait for predictions to come to pass to find out things you said 5 or 6 years ago can tear down your life and your family and your career - why not begin making adjustments now to play on the safe side.

Again, we love reviews, we also love our freedom.

The rating system is going to be obective to that person. Now I know on a scale of what the culture and media would classify as sexy, would be slighty different then how I would rate the same girls. However I prefer thick women with busty chests and big round butts, and soft all over. I also want them to be pretty in the face, clean, soft skin and hair, and take real good care of themselves. So if I give a thick hot 18 year old blonde a 5, in my personal preferences she was, but I know that if I worked for a modeling agency I woud have to rate much lower.
So when I look at a girls ratings in both appearance and performance I look and see what ratings that reviewer gave everyone else, if he gives everyone 5's, then it really means 3, but if this was one of his only 5 star reviews, then she might be worth seeing, especially if everyone else seems to agree.
As far as perforamance goes a 5 should mean All time favorite, or blew your socks off, and anyone giving that for just a decent blow and screw, without that amaxing chemistry and visual and mental memory to jack off to for years to come, is over rating.

Well said. I completely agree.

After spending a few months here, I have to agree. A high or low rating may get your attention, but I would never call or avoid a girl based on her rating alone.