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So it looks like a guy in Australia accidentally caused a provider to have a child and now refuses to pay child support.

Something that we rarely think of when we engage in the hobby is What if a provider, for some odd reason, isn't on birth control and the guys rubber rips, etc, etc...Should the man be morally obligated to take responsibility for the situation? I'm not talking about what the US law might say about it or anything...I'm talking about moral responsibility.

Guys, gals...what would you do?

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Hell no!! If that were the case every bimbo would be getting knocked up, and have 10 kids. At $1,000.00 a month per kid, that's a shit load of money for 18 years.

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I'm sure there's something in the WTO agreement that would cover this. Isn't hobbying supposed to be the cheaper alternative to marriage and child support? Maybe the guy should ask for a line up. I know that being Catholic I'd have a shitload of guilt if it happened to me. I bet she'll never take his calls again!

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Well, if she decided to keep the baby it would be yours. Whether you like it or not you would be the baby's biological father. Not sure what the right thing to do would be to be honest. I don't think the provider should be able to sue for child support as I really think it's one of the risks they take when they decide to work on their back for a living.

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Well, if she decided to keep the baby it would be yours. Whether you like it or not you would be the baby's biological father. Not sure what the right thing to do would be to be honest. I don't think the provider should be able to sue for child support as I really think it's one of the risks they take when they decide to work on their back for a living.

I don't think I'd feel any sort of responsibility. It's not like this is an accident with an SO or anything like that. I think the chances of this happening are few and far between. I've had condoms break in the past but I've always known. The only way this could happen is if the condom broke right when you were ejaculating. In that case, yeah, I guess you'd have to work something out with the provider.

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Why do you think the situation is different from getting someone pregnant in a ONS?

I think it sucks that guys have hardly any right there to say "no, I don't want it"... one of my best friends is constantly in debt because he has to pay for TWO kids that the girls tricked him into having.

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LuciaMelena wrote:

Why do you think the situation is different from getting someone pregnant in a ONS?

I think it sucks that guys have hardly any right there to say "no, I don't want it"... one of my best friends is constantly in debt because he has to pay for TWO kids that the girls tricked him into having.

How exactly did they trick him into having two kids? The old pin hole in the condom? Or was he just not responsible enough to use a condom?

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First case: irresponsible ONS

But I don't know... in case of a drunken 18-year old who gets picked up at a party by a gorgeous 28-year old woman, I'd call her an abuser.... I mean please... what 18-year old boy, heavily intoxicated, would under these circumstances say "wait, we need to use protection!"?

Second case: tricked... was his SO at the time, later his wife, supposedly on birth control, but stopped taking the pill when he said that he really wanted to go to college somewhere else. At the time she said she had no idea how it could have happened, swore she took the pill all the time but now wanted to have the baby.
Just a few years ago (they've long been separated, the kid stays with him) she admitted that she did it on purpose so he'd stay with her.

By the way it's me who's outraged at the injustice... the exwife doesn't pay a dime (for him raising the kid that she proved unable to care for) and gets away with it, and the first one had been collecting support from the start, but won't let him see his daughter.

He never even complained about it till I prodded the whole stories out of him... i really don't think he's responsible.

I think someone is responsible to pay support only if they agree to have a child in the first place.

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LuciaMelena wrote:

First case: irresponsible ONS

But I don't know... in case of a drunken 18-year old who gets picked up at a party by a gorgeous 28-year old woman, I'd call her an abuser.... I mean please... what 18-year old boy, heavily intoxicated, would under these circumstances say "wait, we need to use protection!"?

Second case: tricked... was his SO at the time, later his wife, supposedly on birth control, but stopped taking the pill when he said that he really wanted to go to college somewhere else. At the time she said she had no idea how it could have happened, swore she took the pill all the time but now wanted to have the baby.
Just a few years ago (they've long been separated, the kid stays with him) she admitted that she did it on purpose so he'd stay with her.

By the way it's me who's outraged at the injustice... the exwife doesn't pay a dime (for him raising the kid that she proved unable to care for) and gets away with it, and the first one had been collecting support from the start, but won't let him see his daughter.

He never even complained about it till I prodded the whole stories out of him... i really don't think he's responsible.

I think someone is responsible to pay support only if they agree to have a child in the first place.

The first case is debatable but the second is unacceptable. Number two happened to me many years ago but it ended in an abortion---after a lot of convincing. I went to Europe for the summer after having broken up with my SO of two years. She had been on the pill the entire time we were going out so we never used a condom. I got back from vacation and agreed to meet her. She was really hot and we ended up having some great unprotected sex and I must have dumped 2 gallons into her because I was so excited and it had been awhile. Found out a few days later from her that she wasn't on the pill anymore and then a month later that she was pregnant. I still have mixed feelings about pressuring her into the abortion but all in all I'm very happy she did. Certainly could have been a life changer and I'd probably be working double shifts at Mcdonalds right now if things had turned out the way she wanted them too.. Women can be freaky!

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Everybody who has too much power over other people's life can be freaky.

Don't worry about the abortion. Lesson learned. I'm glad it wasn't easy for you, but you shouldn't feel bad about it.

It's a painful process, mostly mentally and emotionally, but a stable personality should get over it eventually. If she can't, she's probably not stable enough to be a good mother.
Just my opinion... and my experience.

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jus wear a condom problem solved. If u want to go BB i suggest a long time SO or at least a steady one if you want that kind of experience.

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bboy1481 wrote:

jus wear a condom problem solved. If u want to go BB i suggest a long time SO or at least a steady one if you want that kind of experience.

Yeah you're right but nobody who has ever gone BB would tell you that it didn't feel better. Condoms suck but they are a fact of life in the hobby. Thank god they exist actually because otherwise we'd be a pretty nasty bunch with lots of extra growths all over!

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Sinsational wrote:
bboy1481 wrote:

jus wear a condom problem solved. If u want to go BB i suggest a long time SO or at least a steady one if you want that kind of experience.

Yeah you're right but nobody who has ever gone BB would tell you that it didn't feel better. Condoms suck but they are a fact of life in the hobby. Thank god they exist actually because otherwise we'd be a pretty nasty bunch with lots of extra growths all over!

I think guys of a younger generation don't mind condoms at all because they don't know what they're missing...so ya, I agree with you.

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SmoothSmitty wrote:
Sinsational wrote:
bboy1481 wrote:

jus wear a condom problem solved. If u want to go BB i suggest a long time SO or at least a steady one if you want that kind of experience.

Yeah you're right but nobody who has ever gone BB would tell you that it didn't feel better. Condoms suck but they are a fact of life in the hobby. Thank god they exist actually because otherwise we'd be a pretty nasty bunch with lots of extra growths all over!

I think guys of a younger generation don't mind condoms at all because they don't know what they're missing...so ya, I agree with you.

Dunno... I had a ONS with a pretty 23 year old boy who I had to ARGUE with... dumbass....

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