Dee and Dee,

What do you mean by "invest LOTS of money"?

I'm trying to understand what fees exactly trouble you.

Some girls charge extra (and in some case, double) for couples - but not all girls charge this way.

A little more detail will be helpful.

By "lots of money" we mean way over $1,000. We're cheap but not unrealistic, and would hope to get an hour of kissing and "tongue-time" for $500 or maybe less. Are these numbers plausible? Keep in mind that we aren't looking for painful, weird stuff or circus acrobatics, and that he will not participate, but just sit there (and stew in his own juices) while the action ensues.

-D

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I'm not lucky enough to have experience in this matter as my SO wouldn't even dream of having some fun with another lady and even less so if she was a provider. I'd be very surprised if you couldn't find someone willing to make your fantasy a reality for 500 bucks though, especially if the poor bugger is only going to be able to watch and not join in. I hope you'll at least let him yank it out and play with himself a bit.

I get often hired by couples. It's great!

I had no idea it was so hard to find somebody - I just thought I had a nice little niche, because especially for the women it's often easier to be with a masseuse than with an escort.

Could it be that such a service is not advertised as much as we would expect because of the increasing popularity of swinging couples? Is it just you, your wife, and another girl? Or have you considered another couple joining in?

Dee and Dee,

There are a lot of women who will provider bi services, if you look carefully at their website, they will say "couples welcome". We know many and are doubles partners with some favorites - so let us know if you need a recommendations.

Now since you are willing to sit on the sidelines, make this clear when contacting your provider and odds are she will not bump you to her higher "couples" rate.

We are a couple that happens to specialize in helping hubbies introduce their SO to a broader lifestyle. Many times, this "arrangement" is completely unknown to the woman, but I love to approach women, I pose little to no threat when in the company of my hubby and thus am able to flirt and turn up the heat, driving your lady crazy wanting more.

BTW, we are a "couple", we work together as a team and this has many advantages in helping to ease the situation. Further, we do not charge extra for couples either cuz we love them.

(Oh, we also don't charge extra for multiple men - what can I say, I love being the center of attention *giggle* )

I don't really understand why some providers charge more if it's a couple - would somebody explain this to me?

I find the couples sessions more fun and LESS work than the single guys and gals.

Yeah, we've considered other options, but we're not young hardbodied hotties and we aren't really interested in other penises. We thought doing it this way would reduce or eliminate several undesirable factors and streamline the whole deal. Not so!

The swingers we've met are usually not interested in middle-aged folks and/or they can be a little hard-bitten, plus you have to have a 4-way attraction etc etc...

What's wrong with a nice, professional provider being reasonably compensated properly for her time, French-kisses, and cunnilingus skills? If she's out there we ain't found her yet.

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@ dee-and-dee, like we said, we know plenty of providers who are happy to take on your "assignment" should you ever make it to Phoenix, we'd be happy to make an introduction for you. We would also like to be considered, Alex "penis" never has to see the light of day (our experience has proven his "presence" just makes things more comfortable for most).

We are "former" swingers, Alex was in the swing lifestyle for nearly 10 years, so we know exactly what your speaking about - and oh my god, the freakin drama was enough to drive us nuts!!!

@ LuciaMelena, we do not charge extra, so all we can offer for an explanation is what other providers have told us. Some say that a couple requires "double" the effort and "attention" etc, therefore, they should receive higher compensation, some charge just a small premium, other charge double!!! Same goes if you want to book a session with your buddy and tag-team, many providers will double their rates for this kind of scenario. Again the logic is is the same.

Frankly, we do not increase our rates and we llook at it as our little "competitive advantage" (heehee), we feel the more the merrier and the more fun / erotic the encounter - but hey, thats just our little "bent".

We even know of other COUPLES providers who also increase their rates depending on the number of people in the session - so this is a fairly common practice.

End of the day, we prefer to charge ONLY for our time. We find that the simplest and easiest way to avoid being trapped is to stick to this simple formula - pay for our time - period.

Hope this offers some insight

Where have you looked so far? This should be easy... maybe look for the sensual massage / tantra providers on sensualzen.com, they always specify whether they are working with W, M, C (men, women, couples).

Check for reviews, and if you contact somebody don't be too specific, just say the guy is going to be passive, the experience is more for the woman... it really can't be that hard.