I agree. They should use the classifieds or bp etc... Can't blame them though, look at the number of views the "hot mouth, tight pussy" thread has. I don't recommend you click on the providers profile because it's too early in the morning for that (nothing tight or hot about her IMO)

LOL! I thought this was supposed to be a hobbyist hangout at a site for hobbyist to review their experiences. Not another place for us to get bombarded with adds the girls are creatively creating for free under the false pretense of a forum topic. Hot mouth tight pusyy, both two things you can't prove unless you have already paid her, nothing about that statement is based on anything you can verify before it is too late. Once the mouth and pussy have been tried out, refund is not possible. Interesting choice of advertising if you ask me. However I might be thinking a bit to much with the head on my ahoulders and not in my pants today.

Gents,

Actually, according to the site TOS, they have asked the ads to be placed in the local boards to avoid cluttering up the main board. As for local hobby discussion, we wish this was a little more lively, but its been a ghost-town (or at least lurkersville) for quite some time now. We've not yet found a highly active local board - and as such we participate across about 6 different local boards.

Then they should change the name from forum, at a site I believed to be for hobbyist to review and discuss providers and hobbyist related issues, changed to "Escort Adds". It seems everyone has a website now, and those websites are listed, with active links, on thier reviews, so I feel if someone wanted to visit and learn more about a certain provide they would do so there, and that most men coming to the forum are not looking for the same links to everyones websites, posted again and again. I am just one person so maybe I am alone on this, that is why I asked, but unforunatemy it seems the only active members in this section are a ton of providers, maybe the other men gave up on Phoenix forum and joined the Nation wide or and went elsewhere.

I lurk here but don't post very often. I agree with what you're saying but I think there's a fine line between blatantly advertising and a new provider say "hi" or " I have a new website". Still I guess if more of us contributed on here the provider "ads" would get filtered out.

I agree. I don't mind an introduction from a new provider, or even an existing provider with a new site, but its the same girls and the same sites over and over again. I am glad i am not alone on this!

It actually is a turn off for me, I never get turned on by a girl that looks desperate or is trying too hard! I ask myself why she is not booked with appointments, why she is just sitting at her computer looking for new places to advertise? The girls I see are hard to get appointments with because they get so many calls, because they are doing great work and word gets out. But I am not rich, so I put alot of though into where I spend my money.

that thread was started by a hobbyist.

also back in november 2008, the date the thread was started, i dont think they had a separate ad section yet or if they did, it was still new.

turtleboy, you sound cranky.

maybe so, my last 2 experiences left me a little cranky. Got scammed with fake pics, and upselled. Never a god way to strart the week.

Maybe shilling or a provider acting as a hobbyist. Some fo these girls are real sneaky, Not all of them I know, but there are always bad apples, and as I keep meeting these bad apples my wall gets taller and taller, and my trust dissappears.

Mr. Turtleboy,

I also sense the crankiness, and understand your frustration, but, (with all due respect), can you tell us why your being scammed is our fault?

Perhaps accountability rests with yourself -- not doing adequate research to flesh out the bad apple to begin with.

Maybe the flaw is in your system of research, take your lessens learned and improve your system hun.

We would be happy to meet with you for 30 minutes in public with absolutely no expectations - that invitation is open to everyone with 2 recent provider references.

Hope your week gets better babe.

im sorry, i hope you review them and save the next guy from having a bad week.

some of us dont post just to market ourselves.. some of us actually care about the issues that are inherent to the industry and are trying to help by offering advice or gaining insight.

no i'm not busy with clients all day.. on average i see 2 clients a day so i have ALOT of time to spend on forums if i think it's worth my while to inform and be informed.
while some girls only do this for the money, i actually love my job and want to learn as much as possible about it.. i want to help others learn how to stay safe and have fun.
it's a very complicated business but i think it's very simple to see a provider's motives if you stop looking at her pictures long enough to watch how she interacts with the community.

i always look for people who admit to their flaws... i have 1000 times more respect for a person who admits to having a flaw than those people who are constantly talking about how great they are.... sometimes i'll ask a guy in an email to tell me what his flaws are and if he cant tell me any, i'm really not interested in meeting mr perfect. LOL.

i actually landed a pretty competitive job one time because my panel of interviewers asked my flaws and i started listing them very matter of factly and they told me i was the only applicant that actually answered that question and they saw it as a sign that since i recognized my weaknesses, i would be more inclined to try to fix them.

some people will just tell you whatever they think you want to hear, a girl will agree to do whatever you want, she'll claim to be the most beautiful, the most talented, the best thing since sliced bread.... give me a break... avoid them like the plague.

i have booked a boatload of appointments from guys calling and asking me if i'm a perfect 10 and i respond no, i'm a solid 7 maybe an 8 on a good day.... they always laugh and book the appointment without fail while telling me every other girl they called said yes she was a perfect 10. .... there are alot of devious women in this business but if you're smart, it's easy to smell the bullshit, they certainly lay it on thick enough.

also there is a forum labeled "hobbyist hangout" .... this isnt it.
but i post there too so go ahead and tar and feather me, i dont care as long as you know i charge extra for that..

Well I just clicked on Anna's linky. Ya know, she's a good looking blonde women. I'm not into the GIANT knockers, plenty of pictures with them covered up to see her face. Yes those things can be distrackting.

I had one of those "valleys best" and it was not. It was like ordering an ice cream cone and getting frozen milk. Yes it was cold an filling, but no satisfaction for the taste buds at all. "I just spent good money on that" . I havn't had a good women in so long I forgot what one was like.

dont knock my knockers until you try them.

they're lots of squishy fun and very talented.
you might be surprised.

however, i am not at all surprised that one of the "valley's best" was a disappointment.. i hear that all the time.
privately of course.

i've come to the conclusion that in this business, popularity comes with a pimp and i just dont need it.
i'm happy to settle for mediocre.
my clients have been loyal for years so apparently mediocrity is more fun anyway.

i hope you review the frozen milk... and that the review sticks... but i'll believe it when i see it.

Would love to know who the Valley's Best is...anyone feel like supplying a link?

I had no idea this was the "NO GURLZ ALOUD" treehouse.

Dang.

D.

It looks like after it was expressed that nobody was falling for the sneaky adds creeping into the forum, by a small few, that it has finally stopped. Now it seems that the girls that post are actually motivated by their caring nature to share info and advice. Maybe it just needed to be said.

just so you know, the reason that you see the girls website links posted over and over is because that is our "signature line" and it shows at the bottom of all of our posts. . we are not deliberately typing in our websites on every posts just to "sneak" in an ad, it just happens to be a way we can set up our posts.

if it bothers you, you could complain to management that girls shouldn't be allowed to customize a "signature line" because you find the website links in their posts annoying.

or you could click on one and go get laid and get over it.

I understood that. I never said anything about links. I even said it looked to me like the problem was NOT happening anymore. I think you misread my statement.