I SO agree with what you have said here!
I will even alot of times(depending on what the excuse is I guess) accept an explanation after the fact.
Of course, that is as long as they are not trying to make an other appt and I have to say something to them about it...!!
But other than that- I can be pretty forgiving...!
Can you even begin to imagin what would happen if we started doing that to them.!?
Anyhow-
Just wanted to say Thxs - I hope it gets read.!!

Agreed!

We learned to do the following:

(1) Require all appointments be made at least 48 hours in advance
(2) Require a deposit for all appointments
(3) Offer a HUGE (25%) discount for payment in full, in advance

We know that we are very different, but ladies, we have to work together to educate the gentlemen that NCNS is rude, and there will be consequenses.

Thats why we started our private, anonymous providers-only forum. If your not members yet, we hope you will consider joining, its free.

Just our 4 cents.

I does happen, and it gets reported in sites like this or in reviews.

I am frustrated on my end with no shows. OR, I make an appointment only to wind up sitting in my car waiting for a text. I can't seem to catch a break and find a provider who can keep an appointment. Frustrating on both ends.

Are these women who are well reviewed?

Typically, well reviewed ladies are more reliable, and if a provider NCNS on you, then you should submit a review stating as such to help protect other gents from suffering the same fate.

Just our 4 cents.

Thanx Dustine!

Thanx for the input guys; very valid points & advice. If the tables were turned, I would review every NCNS to make my point & promote the intolerance of this type of behavior.

discreteinaz, make an appt with me & I promise I'll not only show, but our experience will be something we both shall remember for a lonnnng, lonnnng time to come.

We have seen sites that offer alerts for men who are dangerous or rob gals, but...

Imagine there were a place to not only warn about dangerous behaviour, but a place to just tip other ladies off to guys who NCNS habitually, or insist in BBFS (if it was unwanted).

Well, there is now such a place!

PM us for details - Stay Safe Ladies & Gents.

I'm a new hobbyist and had a situation recently where I made a noontime appt. that I had to cancel when en route. This was due to a work call that needed immediate service, had no choice. I felt bad and called the provider and told her I would buy her lunch, stopped by and gave her $20 for her trouble since it was on my way. She was visiting, so I wasn't able to reschedule but hope she'll see me if she's back in town sometime.

I hate flakes
Here is my story.This happened last week

I had a sugar baby relationship with a client.He wanted me to go to Vegas with him.I was in LA so I decieded I should stay 5 extra days in LA because the flight was so cheap from there.So instead of coming back to PHoENIX I stayed.Lost $500 on hotels because it got kinda slow.I also didn't have any money for food.so I was very hungry and sad because i was homesick and wanted to come home.i was starving in a 3 star hotel how fucked up is that.

He said he was oh so sorry an would make it up to me.Said he would buy my ticket home.Said his dad was out of the country and would put money in his account and he would buy the ticket that morning.He wouldn't take my calls the next day.My husband had to use the rent money for my flight.He didn't even want me to go to LA
Now I am short $200 rent and could possibly be evicted.I could of came home with $500.I came home broke an in debt because i put too much trust in a client.

He says he wants to continue seeing me an would make it up to me.I asked for the $200 to give to my land lord and he made excuses.I told him where to get off @.

He ruined a good thing.I would let him have a freebie day.Dinner and movie or bowling and then a date day every week.He fucked up an I am so mad that I made plans with him.

I just got home from LA yesteray so my wounds are still deep

GUYS PLEASE THINK TWICE BEFORE STANING US UP.ALOT OF US ARE LOW VOLUME AND ONLY SEE A FEW GUYS A MONTH.IT TAKES MONEY TO BOOK HOTELS.
MY BOOTY DANCE 6.9.11

Speed Freak- You quoted me, then said: "I does happen, and it gets reported in sites like this or in reviews."

I am not sure which you meant- that providers report it, or clients do...?
If you meant us- Um, if I am not mistaken- we cant report on any public (maybe any!) site the complete phone number- and its hard to find a site that does just that anyhow.... And I do understand that some providers do do that sort of thing- Personally- I dont, but it does take a little bit of phone calls/text messages to get to me- But that is because I dont care how many references you have- I never give out my address to ANY one. Ever. I have had VERY bad luck with that. Never again.
But of course- even though I am known to be a little late from time to time(jusat to the point of still being in a towel from the shower!!), I have never stood anyone up. And anytime I am running behind getting ready- I let them know right away.
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Discreteinaz - To respond to your post- It might be fustrating to both, but you are not out the $$ that might of fed you, or maybe even your child. Sorry Hun, but I think its a little bit different. Besides, like everyone in almost every forum post says- just do some research. Dont just call a girl 5 mins after you see her post. Watch her for awhile and check out her site... etc. I have seen first timers before who have spent 6 months or even up to a year checking me and others out to make sure we are for real-(and I was SO appreciative that they chose me!).
One other thing also- If someone lets me know that they are really pressed for time- or that they NEED to be somewhere at a certain time- I will make sure that I am ready and that I pay attention so they are not late (if you dont let me know, sometimes my appts run at least 15mins over!).
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And one more -- SeriousD - We all wish there were more like you! There are still some - And I thank them very much. I have had a few who have understood how it hurts us if they cancel on us- and have either stopped by right then, later or have even sent me maybe 20 bucks because they were already on a plane to some where for their Company...... And just that little jester can mean SO much to us. Women are more likely to forgive then most men. And the littlest bit of trying to make it right, even after the fact- is usually rewarded.....
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Oh- And I dont know if any of the girls have noticed- But for me at least, once I get one NS or a Cancelation... I get almost a whole weeks worth! Everything seems to happen is waves around here.... That makes it even harder!!!
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Ok- And that is my 2cents -
This is Dustine Hamman reporting live from my Computer!

Have a great evening!
Dustine Hamman

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Holy crap! That sounds absolutely brutal. Guess I never saw this business from the girl's point of view. I don't know why I always thought this whole thing consisted of play money for both sides. God I'm naive. Sorry that happened to you Mylie.

Thanks johndoe562773 It's ok. You live and learn not to trust. he just made it harder for the next guy to get close to me. I felt close to him and he betrayed me. It happens. I suffered bad because of his games but it won't hold me down :)it's his lose.

If you are established with some regulars, you might try requiring new clients to pay a $50 booking fee payable via greendot moneypak which is available at walgreens, walmart, circle k and other locations.

Offer to apply $100 towards the cost of the appointment as an incentive.

the greendot fee is $5, so the total cost to them is $55 but you would be applying $100 towards the cost of the appointment so they get to save money, you get to save time. I would allow them 1 re-schedule, if they call at least 1 hour ahead of time and if they can't make the re-scheduled appointment either, then they default the money and maybe next time they are more careful before they ask someone to reserve time for them unnecessarily.

JohnDoe - get real please....we run our businesses for the same reason men run a business: income.
It doesn't matter whether that income is to support a family or a playful lifestyle because either way, we are certainly not in business to have our time carelessly wasted. Maybe if 90% of our time wasn't wasted by guys who think we're in business just for the fun of entertaining them, we wouldn't have to charge so much for the other 10%.

@Jenna

This is some great advice, and we've been using this advice ourselves for nearly 3 years now, it works, and its the best way to cut out the last minute time waster.

Gentlemen who keep their appointments, understand the value of your time and at least make a deposit should also be rewarded - we give em $$$ off just as Jenna suggests and causes the creame to rise to the top.

Do we get fewer appointments, yep. (but the ones we lose were not serious about seeing us, so why should we invest our time and $ to see them?)

Again, great advice, we hope more ladies adopt these methods.

Just our 4 cents,

I wouldn't necessarily say you are naive Johndoe; I'd say you just think like the typical man is all & part of our service to you, if done right, involves a certain degree of fantasy, which in part includes the role of the Provider having just as good a time as you, though she likely is anyway. So it just seems to me that you've consistently enjoyed the company of quality Providers, fulfilling every sense of adventure that I myself deem necessary, as part of the entire package. Therefor, I can see how a man might forget it was a service & that service is a product offered to the public, which is how we do business in civilization. I think what you said to Mylie was cute, sweet, sympathetic, & supportive.

Nonetheless, a DJ spins records b/c he loves it. He goes to work every night with enthusiasm, draws in people who just want to hang out in the DJ booth with him all night, packs the dance floor, creates a fantasy world for all who love the rave so they can escape their stress, puts a smile on many faces every night, & loves the praise b/c many see him as a celebrity-type figure & perhaps even worship him, all of which he eats up. It doesn't get any better than loving what you do for work... but do you really think for a moment that he would still be doing it if it weren't for the money? At the very least, he wouldn't have the time b/c he'd still have to work 40 hours a week at something he hated so he could support his family. So he drives to work every morning, rings the service bell, his boss hears the bell, unlocks the door & let's him in to do his job for the day so he can get paid on Friday. He does this everyday so he can feed his family, but today the boss decides not to show up for whatever reason. Without so much as a phone call, guy fills his vehicle with gas, drives all the way to work, rings the service bell, but no one's there to answer the bell to let him in so he can do his job today so he can get paid on Friday so he can feed his family. This sux in many ways: he just spent his last $55 on gas & his dry-cleaning, plus he used his credit card to buy a new lunchbox b/c someone stole his, & doesn't get paid 'til Fri; he lost the $200 that he would have made if his boss would have shown up to let him in; he missed the opportunity for that new job opening b/c they were interviewing for it today, but he decided he better just go to work instead & not chance it, even though it pays double what he would have made at work today, had his boss shown up; & oh shit, his kids won't be eating any dinner tonight!

Being the DJ doesn't make him superficial or greedy, it makes him able to pay the mandatory bills society is structured to pay (& it makes him smart b/c he's doing what he loves!). And just as Mylie stated, some of us are low-volume for whatever reason, leaving the NCNS repercussion with a greater impact yet, though as Jenna states, it shouldn't matter to what degree it affects us b/c the bottom line is that it does have impact, it is unprofessional & inconsiderate, & it's screwing (no pun intended) with business & business is the backbone of our livelihood. It would suck for ANYONE, man or woman, maid or CEO, to attempt to go to work today, but no one showed up to unlock the doors & you don't have a key, so you've no choice but drive back home & go w/out pay today.

Further, many of us go to great lengths to prepare ourselves for looking our absolute best for our date. Time & make-up are quite expensive, as is most of our overhead.

amen Kelsi - Doll, we couldn't have said it any better.

Now lets go have some fun (and get paid too)

This is so very unprofessional but right now I don't give a shit. Well I do, but at the momement its hot, slow and I had a streak of NCNS the past few days. I'm in the mood to seriously take somebody out but lord knows I don't want to put those hours of Homicide Prevention Therapy to waste so I've come up with an alternative that gives me a little bit of satisfaction. I've taken to putting a curse on the individual via text message that reads

"May your balls be mistaken for chum and accidentally thrown to Shamu at Seaworld."

I'm working on a few others... "May you grow man boobs and then may your wife demand you get them enhanced"

"May your pubic hair experience a growth spurt...on your ears, nose and chin."

Doesn't fix things but sure makes me hopeful I might see an oddly bearded man or one with giant boobies when Im out at Walmart one of these days!

When I was hobbying I had a streak of no call no shows. I was at the time in the mood to experiment with new providers but I got a lot of flakes or worse. Now I don't hobby at all, I just check the forums and that is about it. But I have noticed on both sides that there is an increase in NCNS, I don't know if it is the position of the moon, something in the water, or what, but both providers and hobbyists have written about this subject. Shit, I have written about this myself. Oh well, fuck'em! Properly of course.

OMG Brickhouse! That is hilarious... little Voo-Doo affirmations... well, if things get too slow this summer, you could always be a stand-up/lay down comedian ya' know!

I would have just asked the dark gods of chaos to give them all a spastic colon for a week or a pinch in the urethra for a solid day.

To me its about respect for another human being. I called, you answered we agreed on an appointment time. If I, for what ever reason, am unable to fulfill my part of the agreement the absolute least I should do is to let the other person know this. Anything less I feel is inconsiderate and disrespectful. Hell, I call if I'm running a few minutes late due to traffic, etc.
Be polite, it gets you in the door.

I totally agree! NCNS are very frustrating to say the least. I always make sure I let a person know if I'm going to be a little late or not able to show up. It's common decency and respect.

OH, and Brickhouse...you're hilarious.

I feel that part of the problem is in the fact that society criminalizes the practice. Consequently, providers have no meaningful recourse. By legalizing the practice, providers can make the appearance of the John a condition of the agreement by placing her expectations on her ad. As with some medical practitioners. They tell you up front that a fee will be incurred if the patient misses an appointment. Then if the John doesn't show, providers have access to small claims court. Then, the responsibility for showing is shifted entirely to the John, and most don't want to go to court.
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I agree that all of this must seem naive given todays political climate, but I'd rather work for legalization. Otherwise, sex workers must remain in the same demeaning roles, and Johns will continue to abuse providers.

@ "Stag r lee" -
Yes, that would be very nice... But.....
Either way, the guy would just think that he wont call that girl again - plus the miss appt fee wouldn't be All That much- 50 bucks maybe- not worth the file fee for small claims.
He could go on a "List" -
But big deal if that is his only fault - A lot of providers would still take the chance when times are real tight.... For most girls, $$ and survival trumps loyalty anytime.
It would be nice- but in my opinion it would Never be realistic. Sorry

I am not sure why, but so far (knock on wood!)- I have been pretty good at knowing if some one will show up or not - And can usually tell if someone is just maybe trying to waist my time.....
But I will admit I have been surprised a couple of times....
Was sure they were NOT going to show...
Or they forgot to confirm...
And Bam. Here I am totally not ready and they are a mile down the street!
But it luckily has worked out (maybe even better) so far, every time.
[dont want to put "How" on here though..... sorry...!]
But maybe you can use your imagination....

Anyhow-
BrickHouse-
You always tell it like it is don't you!
: )
You are the Bomb !!!!!!!!!

Also, to "jrobb" -
Yes, very true- and common courtesy can save the world... Or at least save your life. You NEVER know what someone elses breaking point is. If nothing else, you might be saving their life- Just by being thoughtful, etc.
Sorry, just one of those things I feel strongly about....
: )

I find it much easier to be nice than to be an a**hole

not to mention the lower stress levels...thats a bonus.

I didn't read this whole thread, but I've been stood up too, as a client. Twice in one night, by two different ladies. Yea, it sucked. It definitely turns me off from trying again. So it goes both ways...

now why the heck would you post that for Brickhouse?!!

if you said that to her face I bet she'd kick yer arse.