That is true for most adds but I post for the low and I'm not any of that I love what I do. Sometimes for example, I post adds for 40/15 50/15 or even 60/15, 60/30 75/30 or even 80/30,80 /hr -100/hr or even 150/hr it just depends on how I feel at the time I post. All I'm saying is not all providers are like that.

Well said hun. It is completely your perogative to charge whatever you want.

It is tough in this world (or any for that matter) to make blanket statements and generalizations. Which, without speaking FOR cabledog, we assume that was what he was doing, which is why when rates are low, gentlemen need to add an extra layer of caution, they should search for reviews and other ads / profiles that might help them reduce the odds of being taken advantage of.

Just like you probably screen your new clients, you have to do things in such a manner to be safe, and of course, realizing that generalizations just mean you need to do more research.

So... I'm sure some guys are wondering, since your rates are so awesome, do you have any reviews?

Just our 4 cents.

I hate this crap too Cabledog!!! Our community should take self-action & consistently "deal" with these impostors in a way that makes a bold statement of how we're not going to put up with this BS anymore! Hey, don't judge... this system has worked for us Italians for centuries! };)

Well said, beautiful!

darn itchy "post" button!

There are a number of ads on sites in town that are like that.... even after they are reviewed and outed as ripoffs......they'll change their pictures but not the content of the ad. I can think of probably 20 on one hand. (I've used that joke before and it still cracks me up...was it here?...oh well usually no one replies to what I say anyway)

I get tempted to tell them they've been noticed and to take their criminal behaviour elsewhere. But I don't need to be retaliated against. Too bad, like Kelsi said, that there isn't a way we could take care of these people. A few well armed guys in leather jackets with steel toed boots would be perfect. That was just a fantasy and I would never endorse anything even similar to that.

I understand cablegod73's fustration. Those Providers who Bait & Switch, or Thieves should be outed, and it makes it twice as hard for us honest ladies to convince potential clients that we are not going to steal or have some crazy scheme set up. I apologize for these bad experiences youve endured, but rest assured, there is definitely honest providers out there (including me).

No, the providers I was referring to are rip offs. The way this ad reads is them. I have been tracking them and post warnings about them when ever I can. The modus operandi is to dash and lately they show up together. They are specific theives that change their names frequently along with their phone numbers. I was not speaking in general, I was being specific.

These two post on backage all the time. The name changes, as well as the phone number, but never the lure. Here is their latest lure. http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-lil-spanish-beauty_-w-kic... Reyna is the name being used this time around. This is what inticed me.

I too agree with you Laguna 100%, & have felt since my beginning that these derelicts make for skepticism upon all, including us honest ones. I may appear contradictory within this post, but I can see valid points to both sides of this conversation, & find myself yet again supporting what Christina says about how you guys HAVE to do your homework before choosing a Provider, just as we screen Hobbyists before agreeing to see them. We are all where we have placed ourselves in life, like that statement or not, & when I pull a stupid move that could have otherwise been avoided on my behalf (that's not to say that EVERYTHING is in our power), I have no one to blame except myself. With all due respect, if you guys wouldn't wait until the last minute when the mood suddenly strikes you, rather if you would plan in advance on visiting with a Provider, not only will you have time to selectively choose your new friend by means of research, but you will also give her time to plan for your visit, which will undoubtedly create a better experience for both parties. Don't you want the best value for your time? Many of us require at least 24 hours advance notice to prepare for your arrival. What do you expect when you call someone up off BP & expect her to be ready, waiting at your door in 5 min? In my short 2 1/2 yrs of doing this, I've taken only a few appointments immediately when called upon b/c I let them talk me into making "this" time an exception, & each of them were just short of disastrous, though I somehow managed to pull it off undetected. Nonetheless, now you know they didn't check me out before they got the sudden urge (& they get irritated when you insist upon screening them beforehand, but comply anyway). This is one area guys, where impulse does not make for a more fun-like experience, trust me. I realize I drifted away from the topic here a bit, but I felt compelled b/c that needed to be said. I wish everyone only the finest of experiences, but we are part responsible for ensuring/insuring that happens.

No that's awesome, except I think they should instead be dressed in lingerie & stripper shoes, beat the shit out of them, then take all THEIR money & run, just after telling them why they did it. An eye for an eye!

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The problem with the cash and dash or other ripoffs is there are too many different local boards spreading out where info can be shared. In the old days before websites and just the Bachalor Beat it was much easier. I hosted the Phoenix Private List via snail mail before there was e-mail and just newsgroups at 300 baud with packet readers. But instead of the zillions of clients and advertisers (fake and real) there were far fewer of both. Next there were websites, faster access (not take minutes do download a few text newsgroup posts) and TBD before their big bust etc.

We are also starting to get reports more like in the old days of big pimps demanding money.

A few weeks ago even at a strip club (Centerfolds) we have a report that a dancer insisted she did more dances than the customer knew they had done (was carefully counting). The guy refused to be robbed of more than the correct number of $20's for actual dancers and when he tried to leave the dancer complained to the big bouncers who attacked him and took him to the floor - beleiving the dancer not the customer. He reported even another dancer commented about he wasn't the first to tbe robbed this way.

Today while info is more widely scattered it does get out, but takes monitoring many boards to be fully informed which takes more time than some of us have available.

But getting info out by needed reviews (good and bad) creates a huge legal issues as at least two of the Phoenix boards are being montored and reviews being compileld to use to get plea deals by Phoenix PD. Not to mention busts for escorts simply using "GFE" or other terms on their websites (easy soliciation bust since jury decision in a case a few years ago).

Tonight I am in e-mail with as she says "desperate" escort where some guy is sendiing her web/reviews etc to family members and is concered wealthy ex's family will use it in a custody fight for child. BTW, am looking for industry friendly family attorney's to refer to - most of my lawyer referrals are criminal and most very expensive. Even in the DD case with almost 100 some lawyers were paid $100k+ and still pled to felonies and prison.. now we have the 39 from the Temple facing trials or pleas almost all felonies.

The only real soluation is a legal battle like just happened in Canada (and won but outcall never an issue) to fight for in private consenting adult laws being unconstitutional (Lawrence vs Texas defense) but outcome unknown with current Supreme Court and VERY expensive for good legal defense.

Kelsi I would take it one step further. On 19th ave and Bell road there is a Bill Johnsons restaurant with an overdone western theme. On the side of the building is an old covered wagon. I would have them dressed in drag, complete with make up and stilletos and strap them into the wagon while unconscious. At about 6 am at the start of rush hour I would roll the wagon out into the middle of the intersection... and then run!

Oh my! That would be fun! But that would be reserved for the male side of rip offs in this community.

I think cabledog is posting about two providers, if I understand correctly. And well he should because those types of providers only make things tougher for us all around.

It's like I tell any gal who asks me about getting into this biz:

If you don't like kids.....don't drive a school bus!

If you can't read....don't be a librarian!

And for god's sake... if you don't like the art of escorting....please, please don't become a provider!

Thank you cabledog for enforcing industry standards and helping this community to self regulate!